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Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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MS just comes off desperate with their tricks trying to con users into using Edge. Then again, Chrome is no better with their attempts to dominate the web and force their own standards on other browsers to make ads harder to dodge. Aside from Firefox, there's really not many other browsers I trust.

It’s not desperate, it’s nearly abusive. Can you imagine what this relationship would like between two people?

Microsoft has been abusive for longer than many people reading this have been alive.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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Slightly OT, but what the hell is going on with these massive persistent popups on every website imploring me to sign in with my google account lately? After the first dozen I just added a uBlock filter for it, but it's ridiculous now.

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Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile we clamor to the EU to force Apple to let Chrome replace Safari on their otherwise vertically integrated iPhone.

They are the only castle left standing, for all practical purposes Firefox no longer matters, given its market share and Mozzilla's agenda making the world a better place or whatever they are doing now.

The irony is that Mozilla could make the world an objectively better place by being laser-focused in turning Firefox into the best browser possible.

Taking away Chrome's marketshare and making a dent in Google's absolute power in the web should be their only goal, instead of whatever they diversified into.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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Chrome-based Edge really was a good browser. But they have loaded it up with so much junk now. You have to disable so many things to get it to a usable state.

Although, I did discover it is more efficient on low-end hardware than other browsers. I recently had to make an emergency laptop purchase on vacation. I picked up a cheap laptop with a Celeron CPU and 4GB Ram. Firefox was incredibly slow and almost unusable. I switched to Edge and it performed significantly better and used less RAM. I really was amazed at how much better it performed.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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post #23

MS just comes off desperate with their tricks trying to con users into using Edge. Then again, Chrome is no better with their attempts to dominate the web and force their own standards on other browsers to make ads harder to dodge. Aside from Firefox, there's really not many other browsers I trust.

It’s not desperate, it’s nearly abusive. Can you imagine what this relationship would like between two people?

Yeah, it's basically the Republican party.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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In case you missed it, the person responsible for all of these dark patterns at Microsoft is Mikhail Parakhin. It's the top comment in this thread.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38008100

Until shitbags like this guy are forced out of the industry I don't think things will improve.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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MS just comes off desperate with their tricks trying to con users into using Edge. Then again, Chrome is no better with their attempts to dominate the web and force their own standards on other browsers to make ads harder to dodge. Aside from Firefox, there's really not many other browsers I trust.

Meanwhile we clamor to the EU to force Apple to let Chrome replace Safari on their otherwise vertically integrated iPhone.

I'll always support user choice and that is the only thing Apple will be forced to allow. It's extremely bizarre to justify vendor lock-in on the basis of popularity.

Imagine if Microsoft would prohibit you from using Google search on Microsoft devices and force you to use Bing and anyone would justify this on the basis that Bing is unpopular.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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Wish we also covered the tricks that Google used to trick users into adopting Chrome, like paying every freeware vendor since 2009 to install Chrome automatically on your system if you forgot to untick the "Install Chrome" box, similar to any other spyware of the era like the Ask Jeeves or Yahoo! toolbars. I remember back then, when Chrome just came out, asking non-tech people how they got it and they always answered…

At least you can always uninstall Chrome.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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One more: My employer (gigantic corporation) mandates Microsoft. Edge is the default browser. We cannot change it. The browser option is grayed out, we are not allowed extensions, nor do we have access to the Registry. Firefox is still allowed for the moment. We have to manually copy and paste links into it from emails, etc.

For e-mails, you could try using the web version of Outlook from Firefox.

Re: Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome

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post #38

Wish we also covered the tricks that Google used to trick users into adopting Chrome, like paying every freeware vendor since 2009 to install Chrome automatically on your system if you forgot to untick the "Install Chrome" box, similar to any other spyware of the era like the Ask Jeeves or Yahoo! toolbars. I remember back then, when Chrome just came out, asking non-tech people how they got it and they always answered…

At least you can always uninstall Chrome.

Not on Google-made OSes, no. Like most Androids.
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