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How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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I think this is more slightly more on-topic as a reply here > Consider the integers from [0,1000]. Suppose a particle starts at position n. At discrete instants of time t=0,1,2,…, the particle moves up or down with p=0.5. What is the probability that the particle reaches 0 before t=1000? The answer is 50%, right? I can't explain it properly, but my thinking is that the random walk is symmetric and 0 and 1000 should h…

The particle doesn't necessarily start out in the middle.

So the question is "How likely is for a particle to reach 0 or 1000 depending on the starting position"? Then I got the question wrong, thinking it was about the average likelihood for many particles.

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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"In academia, the end product is a publication and your code needs to work only once."

In my experience as ex-academic, the above is all too true in too many computational fields (and many sub-fields of CS). So I ask what scientific value (or any kind of value, for that matter) is being generated by grinding out publications with results that won't be repeatable?

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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shouldn't that be {123, 213, 312, 321}? ie 231 is not possible since after 1 randomly decides to sit at 3, 2 has no reason to go sit in seat 1. This doesn't change the answer to the problem though I think.

uh, nope. xyz => 1 sits on seat x, 2 on seat y, 3 on seat z So the only possibilities are: 123: 1 sits on seat 1, 2 on seat 2, 3 on seat 3 213: 1 sits on seat 2, 2 on seat 1, 3 on seat 3 231: 1 sits on seat 2, 2 on seat 3, 3 on seat 1 321: 1 sits on seat 3, 2 on seat 2, 3 on seat 1 passenger 3 is happy twice out of 4, hence 50% In the code, the happyLast variable counts the number of times the last passenger is happy…

ah, right, I read it as

xyz => seat 1 is occupied by passenger x, seat 2 by y and seat 3 by z

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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I'm finishing my PhD, and starting a post-doc in the fall. I had wanted to break out into industry, because I didn't see myself in academia in the long term, but I didn't get anywhere with job applications, so here I am. I have a few questions: 1. My work consumes most of my time and energy - how would one find time to work on side projects and build a portfolio, when the academic workload is so all-consuming 2. I fe…

Concerning the workload: As far as I'm concerned, the academic workload is definitely not all-consuming. From watching my colleagues, I came to the conclusion that everybody chooses their own workload. Some of my coworkers come at 9AM and leave at 4PM; others think they absolutely must finish that experiment and stay until 10PM. Some people think they must immediately rush to the lab if their supervisor sends them an…

Seconded. Some of the most successful academics I know keep regular 9-5 hours and leave their work at the office, have spouses and children, etc. I've noticed a lot of them are fantastic at time-boxing and that some of my less successful colleagues aren't so much, and the freedom the academic schedule gives them ends up being more of a hindrance than a help.

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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> 100 passengers have queued up to board a plane, and are lined up in the order of the seats on the plane (n=1..100). However, the first person lost his ticket and selects a random seat. The remaining passengers will occupy their assigned seat if it is available, or a random seat otherwise. What is the probability that passenger 100 sits in seat 100? It really worried me that I couldn't figure out how to work that ou…

I think this is more slightly more on-topic as a reply here > Consider the integers from [0,1000]. Suppose a particle starts at position n. At discrete instants of time t=0,1,2,…, the particle moves up or down with p=0.5. What is the probability that the particle reaches 0 before t=1000? The answer is 50%, right? I can't explain it properly, but my thinking is that the random walk is symmetric and 0 and 1000 should h…

I believe the right answer is about 2.5% (0.0247)

Here's some imperative scala:

     object particle {
       def main(args:Array[String]) = {
         val simulations = args(0).toInt
         val rng = new util.Random
         val reachedZero = (1 to simulations).map(_=> {
           var t = 0
           var z = 1+rng.nextInt(1000)     
           do {
             z += {if (rng.nextBoolean) 1 else -1}
             t +=1
           } while( z != 0 && tscala particle 1000000
      >0.024782
Some intuition: If there were only 2 positions {1,2}, and you picked 1 with probability 0.5, you could get to 0 by going down once with probability 0.5. Going up wouldn't help since you'd have to go down to be back at 1, at which point you've exhausted your chances. Suppose you picked 2 with probability 0.5, you'd have to go down twice consecutively to hit 0, which has a probability of 0.5^2. So overall, your probability is 0.5^2 + 0.5^3 = 0.375 You can try working it out with 3 positions & 3 turns, and suddenly its not so easy....:)

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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> Also, if your degree is in English, the best I can do is point you here (link to Starbucks job page). I know it's supposed to be funny (i.e., it's "just a joke") and I grant I may be sensitive since I have a BA in Comparative Literature (a graduating class of 1 in my major) and a PhD in Classics, but this came across as completely obnoxious and unnecessary. Don't know anything about Humanities? Fine. Don't talk abo…

Ha! Another Classics Ph.D. here :-). And there are lots of people in programming with advanced Humanities degrees. STEM majors aren't the only smart people around.

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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Do keep in mind, while we're all bashing academia, that there are those who go the opposite direction. I finished a researchy undergrad, went to industry, basically got miserable , and have gone right back to apply for PhD programs. I'm incredibly happy to know I have at least the one admission, even if it doesn't have guaranteed funding!

Just for full disclosure, I did the same, in that I did research and publication as an undergrad, worked in industry briefly and then went back to do a PhD (in my case, I had gotten in before I finished undergrad and deferred my admission to work for a bit.) Personally, I'm not bashing academia per se -- I think it's great for people with the right mix of temperament and motivation. The travesty is that so many peopl…

I quite agree, actually, and I'm glad that my undergraduate department had an actual course to solve this problem.

CS491DD: Empirical Research Methods in Computer Science

One of my favorites, despite the incredible workload. Though for my field I would have preferred Formal Research Methods in CS, but hey.

There's also the NSF-sponsored Research Experience for Undergraduates program, which is basically "summer internship in graduate school." If you do those and like it, you should go for a PhD, because you like academia.

On the other hand, I really didn't like industry when I got there, and for that I blame the fact that I didn't have an industrial internship in college. I didn't know what I would think of full-time industrial programming until I got there.

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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I'm finishing my PhD, and starting a post-doc in the fall. I had wanted to break out into industry, because I didn't see myself in academia in the long term, but I didn't get anywhere with job applications, so here I am. I have a few questions: 1. My work consumes most of my time and energy - how would one find time to work on side projects and build a portfolio, when the academic workload is so all-consuming 2. I fe…

As a researcher who just accepted a private job, I do have some experience here. My advice is to make use of the fact that academic jobs usually have unsurpassed autonomy and flexibility. If you aren't looking to get a faculty job, think of the postdoc as a relatively low-stress way to prepare for the transition out of academia. Not to say you should blow your job off, but make use of the opportunity to learn things that increase your cross section for industry and are still relevant in your research (even if it would not be the optimal thing to do if you were looking to crank out papers for your career in academia). Most of the academic workload is self-imposed, in the sense that you worry about the rat race for getting the next job, but if you are not interested in continuing your academic career, that's a non-factor.

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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I'm finishing my PhD, and starting a post-doc in the fall. I had wanted to break out into industry, because I didn't see myself in academia in the long term, but I didn't get anywhere with job applications, so here I am. I have a few questions: 1. My work consumes most of my time and energy - how would one find time to work on side projects and build a portfolio, when the academic workload is so all-consuming 2. I fe…

Concerning the workload: As far as I'm concerned, the academic workload is definitely not all-consuming. From watching my colleagues, I came to the conclusion that everybody chooses their own workload. Some of my coworkers come at 9AM and leave at 4PM; others think they absolutely must finish that experiment and stay until 10PM. Some people think they must immediately rush to the lab if their supervisor sends them an…

I think much of the pressure is self-inflicted.

This is true, but that doesn't make it less stressful. It's self-inflicted in the sense that the pressure running a startup is self-inflicted: you are competing with a bunch of other highly skilled individuals for a fixed slice of cake and if you want to be one of the successful ones you need to out-compete the others. The fact that no one forces you to work isn't really relevant.

Re: How to leave academia (for science PhDs)

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Concerning the workload: As far as I'm concerned, the academic workload is definitely not all-consuming. From watching my colleagues, I came to the conclusion that everybody chooses their own workload. Some of my coworkers come at 9AM and leave at 4PM; others think they absolutely must finish that experiment and stay until 10PM. Some people think they must immediately rush to the lab if their supervisor sends them an…

Seconded. Some of the most successful academics I know keep regular 9-5 hours and leave their work at the office, have spouses and children, etc. I've noticed a lot of them are fantastic at time-boxing and that some of my less successful colleagues aren't so much, and the freedom the academic schedule gives them ends up being more of a hindrance than a help.

Are those tenured professors that have their grad studends and post-docs do all the work for them ? :)
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