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How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

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Re: How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

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I understand soap molecules having polar and nonpolar ends, so that it can help nonpolar things dissolve in water. What I've never understood is, why doesn't soap clean off pine sap?

Pine sap are not water soluble, even with soap. Pine sap is resin based, resins need a different solvent that can dissolve it such as alcohol or mineral spirits. It the same for wax (THC/CBD) resins, they need alcohol to clean it off.

It the same for blood stains on clothing. They are not generally water soluble, you could get them out if you put it under cold water if the stain is still fresh. Hydrogen Peroxide can dissolve blood stains (fresh or old) since it can be used as a solvent.

Re: How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

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I don’t have a real answer for you but I will say that olive oil works well for this. I worked on a Christmas tree lot through my winters as an undergrad and olive oil always worked well. Of course then you need soap and water to remove the olive oil.

This is great for when the contaminant is oil soluble but not water soluble.

Guessing inside (white side) of orange peel will work too (the oils are used to make various cleaning products).

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This is probably the stupidest question many of you will encounter today, but: If soap has an extraordinary ability to destroy viruses on our skin ... can eating soap give us some of those benefits for viruses that are already in our bodies? I'm not seriously envisioning chowing down on bar soap or using liquid hand soap as a salad dressing. But are there ways to use the _properties_ of soap that make it good for kil…

I mean yes, technically soap will destroy viruses that are already in your body absolutely. It will also destroy many other cells and proteins in your body as well since soap is an indiscriminate killer. The end result is that both viruses and normal tissue will end up dying which will damage you or possibly kill you.

This doesn't sound right. Soap is considered nontoxic. We all ingest soap residue from dishes and other hygiene and I've never heard anyone concerned about it.

Re: How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

#36

I understand soap molecules having polar and nonpolar ends, so that it can help nonpolar things dissolve in water. What I've never understood is, why doesn't soap clean off pine sap?

I don’t have a real answer for you but I will say that olive oil works well for this. I worked on a Christmas tree lot through my winters as an undergrad and olive oil always worked well. Of course then you need soap and water to remove the olive oil.

Coconut Oil works as well.

Re: How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

#37

I understand soap molecules having polar and nonpolar ends, so that it can help nonpolar things dissolve in water. What I've never understood is, why doesn't soap clean off pine sap?

It does just not very well. Maybe the pine sap is more interested in being stuck to pine sap than soap?

There are things that are much better at cleaning non polar molecules off of surfaces, alcohols, gasoline, lye, brake cleaner etc, but they’re not great at cleaning your hands because they strip the lipids that make up your skin off.

Re: How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean yes, technically soap will destroy viruses that are already in your body absolutely. It will also destroy many other cells and proteins in your body as well since soap is an indiscriminate killer. The end result is that both viruses and normal tissue will end up dying which will damage you or possibly kill you.

This doesn't sound right. Soap is considered nontoxic. We all ingest soap residue from dishes and other hygiene and I've never heard anyone concerned about it.

Soap in very small amounts is nontoxic. In larger quantities soap will absolutely cause a great deal of discomfort, vomiting or even result in chemical burns in your digestive tract. Soap poisoning is absolutely something people get concerned with, especially those who have kids who are a little too curious.

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I'm a huge advocate for washing with soap and water, but this gave me pause: > washing your hands with soap and water is one of the most effective ways people can keep from getting sick, and from passing the [COVID-19] virus to others So not to doubt handwashing, but I thought we overwhelmingly determined that COVID-19 doesn't thrive on surfaces (very long) and its primary transmission vector is through the air, from…

Yeah, you should wash your hands for lots of reasons but I'm not sure COVID-19 is a particularly relevant one. Much more relevant is, say, fecal bacteria, which will make you sick.

Re: How Soap Works: The Science Behind Handwashing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean yes, technically soap will destroy viruses that are already in your body absolutely. It will also destroy many other cells and proteins in your body as well since soap is an indiscriminate killer. The end result is that both viruses and normal tissue will end up dying which will damage you or possibly kill you.

This doesn't sound right. Soap is considered nontoxic. We all ingest soap residue from dishes and other hygiene and I've never heard anyone concerned about it.

The dose makes the poison. Don't eat soap.
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