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Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by Alifatisk »

wkat4242 wrote: post #23
Alifatisk wrote: post #9

Pirating movies has become so easy that people can almost not tell they are pirating movies. One example is popcorntime or webtorrent + finding the movie in Yify.

Yes but be careful. In some countries like Germany with low consumer protections you will get extortion letters from random lawyers when you use popcorn time.

> In some countries like Germany with low consumer protections you will get extortion letters from random lawyers when you use popcorn time.

I believe there was some cases in Sweden or Denmark aswell were users got those extortion letters aswell.

Scary stuff, out of curiosity, how much do you have to torrent in order to be a target by these lawyers? I guess seeding those torrents makes you a bigger target?

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by phone8675309 »

Alifatisk wrote: post #9

Pirating movies has become so easy that people can almost not tell they are pirating movies. One example is popcorntime or webtorrent + finding the movie in Yify.

Most of the people I know that pirate movies just watch them on pirate sites.

There's a specific site for watching animation (including anime) that has a better interface and search than Crunchyroll and it's free. There are pop-up ads that are easily blocked with uBlock Origin.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by _chu1 »

gdevenyi wrote: post #38
Varloom wrote: post #32

With Encrypted Client Hello being rolled out (default on Firefox, optional on chrome/edge with Cloudflare DNS). ISPs can't technically block any website anymore. They used to block DNS requests, then when secure DNS rolled out, they targeted SNI requests. But with ECH there is nothing to block except the ip address, which is dynamic and doesn't even belong to the website if it was hosted on a CDN.

So Firefox and CloudFlare can block instead.

Firefox can't because you can just change the code to remove the block, but the Mozilla compiled versions very well could. CloudFlare could, and they seem like they very well would because as a company they seem as comically evil as Oracle.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

yummypaint wrote: post #41
endisneigh wrote: post #20

Instead of not consuming, pirates use all sort of mental gymnastics to justify their consumption without paying or following the terms involved. I guess it’s no surprise many of these parasites are taking their ideology to retail. Millions of dollars of goods are stolen yearly, and this is why we can’t have nice things. Why pay when you can take for free?

At least within the us, theft associated with things like shoplifting is dwarfed by wage theft. Companies steal from their customers and employees more than the other way around. I would argue this is the purpose of the streaming model, to make sure people can't pass their media collection on to their descendants so it has to be repurchased. Theft. Piracy is an activity within the scope of the free market, just like…

I agree that wage theft is a problem but in this particular discussion it’s a “whataboutism”. At best it’s a “two wrongs make a right” argument but I think digital content piracy has an easier justification than that.

I don’t have to convince myself that piracy is okay: I do not see what is wrong with it. Others do. It’s on them to make the case against it and nobody makes a compelling case -- not one that I’ve read or heard. The talk of but it’s theft fails to see that piracy is markedly different from theft. It’s going to a different store where it’s on offer for free.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by phone8675309 »

endisneigh wrote: post #20

Instead of not consuming, pirates use all sort of mental gymnastics to justify their consumption without paying or following the terms involved. I guess it’s no surprise many of these parasites are taking their ideology to retail. Millions of dollars of goods are stolen yearly, and this is why we can’t have nice things. Why pay when you can take for free?

All those fucking freeloaders using a DVR and fast-forwarding over the ads!

I think they should get the death penalty for violating the terms of service./s

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by musha68k »

justaman wrote: post #52

Piracy as a whole is absolutely seeing a resurgence. The fragmentation of cable into the streaming era started wonderfully. There was a time when one or two subscriptions could service your media needs. I think the most egregious offender is the NFL. To follow your team, you need all these services: ESPN, Peacock, Paramount+, Amazon. Or, you can pay for a sub-par service offered by the NFL. Ultimately, we are paying…

I see it the same way.

In the long run imo only two options:

a) finally figure out licensing and platforming ambitions to unify so that the onus is not on customers

b) upgrade your democracies; become Switzerland

Ideally both.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by ziddoap »

endisneigh wrote: post #35
wkat4242 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really justify. I just pirate because I can. I don't really care about the moral discussion at all. YMMV of course. I did share a Netflix account before the clampdown but now I pirate again. I just take the road of least resistance. Like water.

Indeed, and those who take items from the aisle at Target and walk out the door are also taking the road of least resistance. Such a hassle to go and check out, after all.

You can be against piracy, totally understandable, but your not going to convince anyone to not pirate media with this kind of strained comparison and dismissive sarcasm.

There is a pretty obvious difference between copying data (which leaves the original available) and removing a physical item from a store (which does not leave the original available). You can still consider both to be wrong, but they should be differentiated.

It is also worth trying to understand why people pirate, and addressing those issues, rather than just have snarky comment wars.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by _chu1 »

From how out of touch I am with my generation I fail to realize how many people watch TV and anime and whatever through those weird, peculiarly named "free TV and movies" websites with the pop-up ads and kinda-okay quality that have JS scripts and tons of protections to prevent you from downloading the content, one even somehow activated my browser's back button if I opened the developer tools. Who is owning these websites and why aren't they as easily taken down? It's certainly not hard to find them if the most technologically illiterate people I know find them easily.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by endisneigh »

ziddoap wrote: post #77
endisneigh wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, and those who take items from the aisle at Target and walk out the door are also taking the road of least resistance. Such a hassle to go and check out, after all.

You can be against piracy, totally understandable, but your not going to convince anyone to not pirate media with this kind of strained comparison and dismissive sarcasm. There is a pretty obvious difference between copying data (which leaves the original available) and removing a physical item from a store (which does not leave the original available). You can still consider both to be wrong, but they should be diff…

My goal is not to convince, merely my own comment i was broadcasting.

Though, I’m as interested in why people pirate as I am why people steal from stores.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by jncfhnb »

endisneigh wrote: post #57
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your initial comment had such suggestive phrasing when taken in turn with the comment that person replied to before you edited the first one.

Before it simply said theft is on the rise, which is simply true, even using the grandparent link, unless for some reason you don’t count cars. However I edited since whether or not it’s on the rise is actually irrelevant to my point.

Theft is on the decline including vehicle theft because vehicle theft is a small portion.
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