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I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

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Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

#15

This appears to link to the C++ version of I2P. Not the original "Official" Java version which is more complex and has much more built-in features: https://geti2p.net

i2pd it's preferred on low devices because of performance. Anyway, current i2pd works perfectly well with irc, mail, nntp, gopher, web and telnet.

Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

#16

How does I2P compare to Veilid? At first glance they seem quite similar.

I2P actually has a functional network, Veilid has just launched, and isn't really available to the public in a meaningful way.

Outside of the practical, I2P is built entirely in Java, Veilid is built in Rust, so potentially more performant, Veilid uses modern ciphers so is potentially more secure, Weilid is potentially easier to modify and integrate into apps, and Veilid locally encrypts its storage, I2P does not.

So, realistically, it's a more modern take on I2P, designed to work on mobile, improvements are subtle, but might help create additional adoption if they can get it into people's hands.

Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

#17

How does I2P compare to Veilid? At first glance they seem quite similar.

I2P actually has a functional network, Veilid has just launched, and isn't really available to the public in a meaningful way. Outside of the practical, I2P is built entirely in Java, Veilid is built in Rust, so potentially more performant, Veilid uses modern ciphers so is potentially more secure, Weilid is potentially easier to modify and integrate into apps, and Veilid locally encrypts its storage, I2P does not. So…

> I2P is built entirely in Java

The post links to the C++ implementation of I2P.

Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

#18

I could never work out how to use this in the past. Has it gotten any easier to use? Tor made things a lot easier.

What's complicated about it? You run a client ("i2p router") and configure your browser's proxy as 127.0.0.1.

And then what?

Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

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I really like I2P as a project, and I think it gets a lot of things right. For example having every network participant relay some internal traffic, instead of relying on altruism from relay operators, makes it much harder for a single entity to control enough hops to deanonymize users. Sadly, outside of torrenting I2P doesn't seem to have much traction, losing out to the better funded tor project

Does I2P torrenting operate at remotely comparable speeds to without?

I recall hearing that it was vaguely frowned upon with Tor back in the day for saturating the networ and it didn't seem like there was much reason to use it over basically any VPN, especially speed wise, assuming your motive was to avoid copyright notices.

Re: I2P: End-to-end encrypted and anonymous internet

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post #3

I really like I2P as a project, and I think it gets a lot of things right. For example having every network participant relay some internal traffic, instead of relying on altruism from relay operators, makes it much harder for a single entity to control enough hops to deanonymize users. Sadly, outside of torrenting I2P doesn't seem to have much traction, losing out to the better funded tor project

I remember I2p torrents being horrendously slow, like 20kbps at max(do you even remember the last time someone used kbps as units?) for popular stuff. Has that changed in the last few years?
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