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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by vasco »

DonnyV wrote: post #330
apexalpha wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn that's insane. As someone from Europe these salaries are just extreme. If ya'll are looking for a remote security engineer from Europe hit me up. :) For those numbers I'll walk the servers into the customers myself.

Salary is that high in the US because we have no social net or price caps here. Your on your own for everything. Healthcare, retirement, overpriced homes, out of control rent, etc

They say they offer healthcare too, not sure how it works for their employees outside the US: https://oxide.computer/blog/benefits-as-a-reflection-of-valu...

With this in mind, it's just a good salary. Until they have competition squeezing them on margins it looks like an OK approach. At some point their board most likely won't agree with paying some people below market rates for important roles and other more fungible roles paying 2-3x market rates but while they can keep doing it, it's great free marketing.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by mbakke »

paxys wrote: post #238
alberth wrote: post #219

> "Today we are announcing the general availability of the WORLD'S FIRST commercial cloud computer" (emphasis mine) I'm having a hard time getting past the first sentence of this blog post. Maybe I'm missing the obvious.

Just marketing fluff. It's a rack mounted server. Nothing "world's first" about it.

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by nicwolff »

mstade wrote: post #284

It bugs me more than it should that they flirt with hexadecimal numbers in their branding with the whole 0x thing, but the logo is 0xide when clearly it ought to be 0x1de. Designer came up with a clever idea but didn't understand hexadecimal, and no one had the heart to tell them? :o) I'm kidding, mostly. The engineer in me is bothered by it, but the part of my brain that cares more about design and branding understa…

https://0x1de.com redirects to https://oxide.computer so they did think of it.

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Post by Yajirobe »

DonnyV wrote: post #330
apexalpha wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn that's insane. As someone from Europe these salaries are just extreme. If ya'll are looking for a remote security engineer from Europe hit me up. :) For those numbers I'll walk the servers into the customers myself.

Salary is that high in the US because we have no social net or price caps here. Your on your own for everything. Healthcare, retirement, overpriced homes, out of control rent, etc

Overpriced homes, out of control rent, retirement are extremely problematic in a lot of European countries. And in the US, healthcare is usually covered by the company (talking about big tech corps).

So the extremely high salary is still a net positive compared to EU

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by itomato »

bigironcto wrote: post #241

I am CTO of a large global data center provider posting with throwaway account. As a technologist, I really appreciate what they have done. Impressive work, high quality, however I don't understand who this is for. The meaningful market for Data Center hardware is pretty well defined in two clusters. People that build/make custom gear (such as Hyperscalers) and people that buys HP/Cisco/IBM/Dell... (blades or hyper-c…

What about from an Integrator or VAR? Would you buy it then?

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

slibhb wrote: post #342
dgb23 wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think salary should be tied to location, but it should be tied to experience, ability, and effort. That's the labor theory of value (see: Smith, Marx), which in theory sounds meritocratic but it can't really be measured or assessed. In reality compensation either becomes a function of power, social currency and negotiation skills, which is the general norm in professions, or you have an institutionalized, p…

Saying that people should be paid according to experience, ability, and effort is absolutely not the labor theory of value. The idea that contribution "can't really be measured" is a cop-out. Contribution can't be measured perfectly but it can be estimated with some accuracy by people who are involved in day-to-day work. "Some accuracy" is really all that's required: as long as contribution is correlated with compens…

> Contribution can't be measured perfectly but it can be estimated with some accuracy by people who are involved in day-to-day work

This is handwaving in the extreme. Anyone involved in software development knows that a single line of code can be critical to success or failure, as can a blob of 100k LOC, so product-quantity metrics are of almost no use. The "estimate" you're talking about generally comes down to general "feelings" about who works hard, which have repeatedly been shown to be poor metrics for actual contributions.

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Post by ahl »

jjice wrote: post #114
eddyg wrote: post #57

If you don’t listen to their “On the Metal” podcast, you’re missing out. So many great stories from legends in the industry. Just start with the first episode. https://oxide.computer/podcasts/on-the-metal

And they currently run a podcast weekly called "Oxide and Friends" where they talk about miscellaneous things in the software space. The most recent few episodes have been about corporate open source and they've had excellent guests, like Kelsey Hightower. Definitely the best computer related podcasts out there. Bryan and Adam are great hosts and their humor is always a delight.

Much appreciated!

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by vidarh »

ninkendo wrote: post #348
vidarh wrote: post #316

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Yes, that is why we talk about it as a private cloud -- it looks almost exactly like a public cloud to the people actually using it.

So in other words, “Someone else’s datacenter” continues to be a perfect description of what Cloud is.

As long as everyone has a shared understanding of what "someone else's" means, which this thread shows people don't.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by itomato »

chx wrote: post #254
bigironcto wrote: post #241

I am CTO of a large global data center provider posting with throwaway account. As a technologist, I really appreciate what they have done. Impressive work, high quality, however I don't understand who this is for. The meaningful market for Data Center hardware is pretty well defined in two clusters. People that build/make custom gear (such as Hyperscalers) and people that buys HP/Cisco/IBM/Dell... (blades or hyper-c…

Maybe you are not. This offering definitely sounds like something for on prem and not a large data center. Basically, if your core competence is hosting stuff you don't need the extra value they provide. But if your core competence is basically anything else and just need more than a single server under the IT guys' desk then this begins to look very exciting.

If you could drop ship a rack of gear to the Colo before, with the puny compute and bandwidth potential in that number of Rack Units, didn’t it just become massively more appealing?
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