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Where's the catch? I refuse to believe there isn't one with apple.
The individual components are coded to the device/can't hot swap identical parts and have it just work. Hugh Jeffreys demoed it with a laptop and phone
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Apple's self repair program lets you link the parts to your device with a phone call, so that's moot
That's not really moot, it's a whole separate subsystem that you have to reason about. "Swap it with one that you know works" is a solid troubleshooting step that is completely ruined if you have to call a third party to do it. Besides, maybe the big solar flare comes and you can't call Apple for a few months or years. Offline repair needs to be possible.
If that happens, the cell towers are probably down, and your primary goal is to avoid starvation; not repair a phone that outside of taking photos is now basically useless.
Also, where are you even charging your phone after such an event? How are you repairing that method and preventing that from getting stolen?
Cynically this could be one of those laws that the big producers like Apple have a competitive advantage over smaller companies that do one-off production runs with contract manufacturers. When you are at the scale of Apple, you could have a whole team designing your right-to-repair compliant processes, and lobbyists to ensure the law as passed is most favorable to your implementation. It also fits in nicely with App…
Although what you say isn’t wrong … Apple really can’t win. Oppose RtR. Gets criticized. Complies with RtR. Also gets criticized. LOL
It makes sense people are skeptical now when they were already fooled once.
Personally I'm going to believe it when I see it.
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Who would decide what "fair and reasonable prices" are? The only reasonable price for documentation that already exists is quite frankly zero.
i guess Apple? it's their device, and their parts. but anyway, re. price, it's the same issue for car parts, dishwasher parts etc etc
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The individual components are coded to the device/can't hot swap identical parts and have it just work. Hugh Jeffreys demoed it with a laptop and phone
Apple's self repair program lets you link the parts to your device with a phone call, so that's moot
That's not going to work if you want to make a working phone out of two broken ones, it's the repair program which prevents you to repair that is moot.
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The individual components are coded to the device/can't hot swap identical parts and have it just work. Hugh Jeffreys demoed it with a laptop and phone
I actually like that my device cannot get stolen and be taken apart for parts. If only I can control whether a part can be sold or not. Together with the ability of checking whether a part is unlocked or not.
I feel two ways about bricked devices too. Those stacks of devices that are fine hardware-wise but locked so essentially useless.
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Please don't attach any morals to this because there aren't any. This is the way to think about all businesses. Even if they’ve been making your favourite products for years, never forget that they’re just here to make money. People who attach morals, norms, and emotions to businesses are falling into the marketing trap. This is by design. Unfortunately I don’t know much of a way to get people to snap out of it other…
*large businesses. Plenty of small businesses sometimes act against their own self-interest because they genuinely care about their community and their workers. See: retiring restaurant owners who sell to someone who will keep the tradition alive rather than the highest bidder.
I would say that they have a different value system, or what they're pursuing might be more conducive to their long term survival instead of chasing the almighty dollars.
It reminds me of corporate raiders destroying companies by jacking up prices and reducing costs until it's no longer a functioning business.
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“ It's appears they are convinced some meaningful part of the "Right to Repair" can't be stopped and of course as competent strategists they are, Apple can't be caught "of the wrong side of history" so they pretend to switch sides, or even paint themselves as on of the original supporters. I wonder how bad it gets until they use Steve Wozniak's name for this...” I agree with your assessment. On the other hand, we sho…
>On the other hand, we should be open and accepting when large companies make policy shifts. Man, if I had a dollar for every time I heard something along these lines of "well we should still encourage X, even if it's a clear political play" I suppose there's just something about being vaguely eager to tacitly accept overt attempts at changing the general discourse Simply because they begrudgingly acknowledge economi…
Please don't attach any morals to this because there aren't any. This is just another step in a long string of similar announcements and "actions" from Apple to gather ammo against lawsuits and new bills, delay or buy any good will they can get regarding this matter. It's appears they are convinced some meaningful part of the "Right to Repair" can't be stopped and of course as competent strategists they are, Apple ca…
I can also see the same company fighting against state-level regulation because a patchwork of laws for this kind of thing is silly.
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When was the iPhone SE you are using released? How much does it cost to replace a similar part on an Android phone released the same year?
I think it is the 2020 model (but unsure, I don't have the phone with me). For Android: I have actually asked the repair shop a few minutes ago, and the answer ranges between 50€ and 400€ depending on the actual model, because the Android market is much more diverse (EDIT: for Android phones released around the same period).