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How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Post by nehal3m »

speedgoose wrote: post #162
nehal3m wrote: post #156

>Largely beautiful as this country is, as you get into more rural areas, there's a high chance you won't have cell phone coverage there - I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to choose if that's a feature or a bug. >We'd already called and sent some WhatsApp messages, so we knew the phone wasn't reachable. How did they do that without coverage?

You call from an area with coverage. Sometimes it’s enough to walk a little bit to be on the other side of a hill for example.

But if that's the case then the test is invalid: The point is to determine whether the lost phone is in coverage range. If you can get in range by moving around a bit then the lost phone might also be in such a place.

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Post by baz00 »

Angostura wrote: post #208
baz00 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

Just a small note, but your contract is with the retailer - if it's not delivered, tell Apple or whoever. It is up to them to get the goods to you.

Try that with most retailers and the conversation ends at delivered. Your only option is to hit them with a summons and that's not a guarantee.

So with due respect that reality doesn't exist.

One reason I buy stuff from Amazon mostly is they are big enough to eat the issues and I put enough business through one service to be a customer worth keeping. Everyone else, not so much. I won't go into how shit Apple are on this front.

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Post by simondotau »

psd1 wrote: post #193
simondotau wrote: post #177

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IMHO the volume of hate isn't so much once you calibrate for Apple setting high expectations for its products, and Apple selling these products by the metric crap-ton.

Thought: hate for a product is at least partially a factor of who buys it - or, more precisely, how often you see dickheads with it. Self-infatuated people are attracted to premium brands, and entitled people and premium brands are both more visible than the converse. Hands up if you've never been cut up in traffic by a BMW? Likewise, when someone cuts in line at a cafe and then sits down with a macbook, it's going t…

Perhaps next time someone holding an Apple device acts like a dick, maybe also take a look at what brand of shoes they're wearing. It's possible their dickishness is actually a consequence of being a Nike fanboy. It might sensitise you to the failings of Nike.

Oh come now, that's ridiculous. Let's be real for a moment. No serious person would ever say that Nike is responsible for the coffee shop etiquette of people who wear their products. It's not the Nike shoes, it's obviously the Apple laptop.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Post by gosub100 »

chrischen wrote: post #118
semireg wrote: post #107

I had AirPods Max stolen from our car a few months ago. A week later they popped up on Find My a block away. I hopped on my bike and tracked to a small apartment building. Using Find My will show you a “warmer … warmer … colder” kind of UI and whenever I lifted my phone to a particular window (shades drawn) Find My would say “Nearby.” I called the police and they were genuinely excited to knock on the door. A guy ans…

Wasn’t expecting that. Was expecting an “even if you located them the cops won’t bother to help you recover just $XX dollars worth of stolen goods.

You're surprised real-world accounts dont match common internet stereotypes?

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Post by EGreg »

INTPenis wrote: post #158
baz00 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

Sad? Non-violent crime such as parking tickets, littering, playing the music too loud and petty theft should not involve armed officers showing up. This presents needless chances for escalation.

The “defund the police” movement was onto something - but it has to be spelled out. - offload many of their jobs to metermaids and other ticket-issuers and keep armed POLICE for things like robberies, no-knock raids, breaking up fights and arresting violent criminals etc.

Most civil disputes can be - and are - handled by banks and insurance companies. This includes auto accidents and credit card chargebacks. Not even the justice system (public courts) need to get involved, they handle thousands of cases a day.

But don’t let everyone write tickets or it will go too far: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8

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Post by nehal3m »

flashback2199 wrote: post #13
nineteen999 wrote: post #7

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If the SSID and password are the same, how would the phone tell the difference? I don't know. My Fitbit has a "find my phone" feature that uses Bluetooth to tell the Fitbit app on the phone to make a loud whistle. It's kind of handy and ive made use of it several times around my house, but obviously isn't useful outside Bluetooth range.

> If the SSID and password are the same, how would the phone tell the difference MAC address, but devices don't care, by design they will connect if the SSID and encryption type are the same, actually, you can create a mesh wifi network at your house with regular routers or access points by doing so, connecting them with wired ethernet.

You can, but if the AP's aren't aware of their shared clients they can't hand them off to another AP when signal strength degrades. Let's say you connect a client to AP A, then walk out of range closer to AP B. Your signal strength will suck because you're now farther away from AP A (and close to AP B). AP A won't disconnect your client to allow it to connect to B for better signal strength (that is, until AP A's signal strength is too low to sustain a connection).

Networks that are meshed by design take this into account and communicate about signal strength per client, handing them over when they notice a neighbor would be able to serve the client better.

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Post by psd1 »

atoav wrote: post #142

My brother dropped his iPhone during a powder snow traversal down the back of the mountain to a hut. We found it accidentally during a hike in the summer, when the snow was gone. Always be prepared to lose everything.

I'm so paranoid about dropping my shit from a ski lift that I've taken to a chestpack, lanyards and karabiners. It makes me feel better.

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Post by koheripbal »

joshstrange wrote: post #203
semireg wrote: post #107

I had AirPods Max stolen from our car a few months ago. A week later they popped up on Find My a block away. I hopped on my bike and tracked to a small apartment building. Using Find My will show you a “warmer … warmer … colder” kind of UI and whenever I lifted my phone to a particular window (shades drawn) Find My would say “Nearby.” I called the police and they were genuinely excited to knock on the door. A guy ans…

Did you go buy a bunch of lottery tickets afterwards? Cops doing their job when you give them the entire breadcrumb trail is incredibly rare. I have many stories from friends and that I’ve seen online of the cops refusing to do anything even when you can guide them directly to the location of your stolen property. I’ve personally experienced their lack of competency when they refused to follow up on stalking/harassme…

Stolen property with an address and evidence will always get actioned. It's easy and rewarding for them.

Online or telephone stuff won't. It is much more complex and requires system knowledge.

It's that simple.

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Post by weinzierl »

p00dles wrote: post #154
semireg wrote: post #107

I had AirPods Max stolen from our car a few months ago. A week later they popped up on Find My a block away. I hopped on my bike and tracked to a small apartment building. Using Find My will show you a “warmer … warmer … colder” kind of UI and whenever I lifted my phone to a particular window (shades drawn) Find My would say “Nearby.” I called the police and they were genuinely excited to knock on the door. A guy ans…

I had a similar situation in Paris with an iPhone. The Police were so helpful, knew exactly what to do, and were also very excited, but ultimately the Find My location wasn’t granular enough to find the phone. In an urban environment like Paris with big apartment buildings directly adjacent to each other, I think Find My is difficult. I’d have to be lucky and catch the phone during transit from one place to another,…

"but ultimately the Find My location wasn’t granular enough to find the phone"

Depends on the generation, the new ones with ultra wideband (UWB) are really awesome, you can locate the item to tens of centimeters. I think you already have to be in a certain range for UWB to kick in. So might not really help if you could not identify the apartment otherwise.

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