BigQuery is probably the strongest aspect
I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is google so cheap? I am a small fish in the big sea but I use this for my personal projects: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/
GCP and AWS are cheap for small and low traffics applications. But once your usage passes a certain point, you'll quickly find out they're more expensive than other vendors. The problem is, once you reached that point, you're probably already locked yourself in by using their specific offerings not found anywhere else. Limiting yourself to plain vps/containers/k8s might help preventing lock in.
And yet many large enterprises with existing data centers have made forays into cloud only to discover how stunningly expensive it is once the free credits run out.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#353My two cents, GCP has a few excellent gems which are better than pretty much any competing cloud offering: - Cloud Run. Best way to deploy containers hands down. All of the benefits of a serverless/containerized workload with all the ease of a traditional VPS deployment. Extremely cheap (pay $0 for side projects with little traffic). - BigQuery. Very easy to use with immense power without having to deal with the deta…
> GCS Archive Storage Have you considered Backblaze B2? (It has free egress!) I think GCS is pretty good as a coherent offering that includes the various storage tiers + auto-classing + lifecycle notifications to pub/sub to feed Cloud Dataflow, etc. But if you're storing data purely for retention or disaster recovery, you should consider a service architected as a backup provider that happens to present an object-sto…
Or Wasabi
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#354I use both. GCP sucks, AWS rocks. GCP is theoretically superior because it has more features and integrations built in. But in practice it's a big mess, and if you want to do anything the "not GCP way", you're better off just not using it at all. People talk about GCP "getting X right", which might be true, except to actually use the thing that they "got right" you have to use everything else they have, and good luck…
I've had nearly the opposite experience, except for support where I've had good and bad experiences with both AWS and GCP. I never understood why people love AWS support so much, it seemed pretty "meh" and I've heard from friends who have had truly awful experiences with paid support for security issues.
In my experience, GCP has a solid, easy, happy-path, and reasonable options for the more esoteric use-cases. AWS typically had a happy path that was clearly poor engineering/dev-ops practice, and more esoteric use-cases required gross hacks and either worked or threw weird errors that suggested it was a pile of shell scripts under the hood.
Everyone will have different experiences with this of course, but product excellence is not an advantage of AWS that I hear from people, it's always support, or pricing, or contracts.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is google so cheap? I am a small fish in the big sea but I use this for my personal projects: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/
GCP and AWS are cheap for small and low traffics applications. But once your usage passes a certain point, you'll quickly find out they're more expensive than other vendors. The problem is, once you reached that point, you're probably already locked yourself in by using their specific offerings not found anywhere else. Limiting yourself to plain vps/containers/k8s might help preventing lock in.
If you limit yourself you will end up paying a ton.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
Didn't they also shut down GSuite Hangouts for a while, before eventually bringing it back?
I don't think so - I think they were hard moved to "Google Hangouts Chat" which is now just "Google Chat"
AFAIR that was loss of some features and some data.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#357A few years ago I worked at a company that lacked any form of CI/DF.
I set up TeamCity in a few hours and it was up and running, but
it did not see much adoption.
Then they had a super long internal project on how to improve their development processes.
The code base was more than 90% .Net code on the back end.
The company decided they wanted to avoid vendor lock and thus, they would not use Azure, and decided that AWS was the best candidate.
My team was assigned to configure and set up the CI/CD pipeline. After quite a lot of time, months, we had to admit that we had failed.
The company hired an AWS expert who didn't get much done. That person was soon gone.
At least a quarter has passed since it began.
The company hired 2 "elite", "top of the line" AWS experts. They got it done, but it took them well over a month.
Afterwards it mostly worked. I dont want to know the total cost but it was enormous.
Since they were a Microsoft shop, going with Azure would have saved them a s*load of money, as well as time.
Since Azure integrates pretty with Visual Studio configurations and solutions we would have it done in less than a month without external help.
I set it up at a different shop and I spent a lot less than a month.
I can't make a judgement that Azure is technically better, perhaps when it gets up and running it is a superior solution, but for a .Net shop I would choose Azure again the next time around.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#358I think YRMV depending on what you're trying to do, but I think the DX & web console experience is much more pleasant on GCP. On GCP, their services are cleanly organized and have distinct icons that tell me what it does with minimal reading. On AWS, often I'm left scratching my head (see https://awsiconquiz.com/ ) The web console design on AWS is catching up (for a long time the UI just looked like an offshoot of th…
I agree - Kubernetes on AWS was a bit of a shock after using it on GCP (yay) and Azure (meh). I think it makes sense if you've used AWS for a while, and know the security groups etc dance, but it was a bit jarring.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#359A few years ago I worked at a company that lacked any form of CI/DF. I set up TeamCity in a few hours and it was up and running, but it did not see much adoption. Then they had a super long internal project on how to improve their development processes. The code base was more than 90% .Net code on the back end. The company decided they wanted to avoid vendor lock and thus, they would not use Azure, and decided that A…
Microsoft programming language works better on a Microsoft IaaS. Makes sense. Use the right tool for the job is a big part of the job.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#360The only real reason is GCP has a central US region. How AWS is still stuck at the coasts is beyond me.
Us East 2 is in Ohio. Not sure which GCP region is central US, they have VA and SC in the East. Edit: looks Iowa and Texas and Ohio as well for GCP
Not bad but still east.
GCP is Omaha in Iowa.
So again what is AWS doing for multiplayer gaming?