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How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Disassemble and remove the battery. I can do this in about 1-2 minutes, others more skilled can do it in <30 seconds.

And then? You can not turn it on again, without also activating the beacon. I wonder if stolen iphones have any value except for hardware parts.

1) Faraday cage.

2) If the thief knows or can guess your passcode, you are screwed, because they can take over your iCloud: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/19/apple-responds-to-iphon...

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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On a somewhat related note, due to the ongoing war in Israel, GPS is being heavily jammed to deter terrorist drone attacks. An intriguing side effect of this is that services like "Find My Phone" and AirTag are experiencing disruptions. This interference sometimes results in devices appearing to be located in neighboring countries, hundreds of miles away from their actual location. Here's an article detailing the jamming situation: https://www.gpsworld.com/gps-jamming-in-israel/.

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I had AirPods Max stolen from our car a few months ago. A week later they popped up on Find My a block away. I hopped on my bike and tracked to a small apartment building. Using Find My will show you a “warmer … warmer … colder” kind of UI and whenever I lifted my phone to a particular window (shades drawn) Find My would say “Nearby.” I called the police and they were genuinely excited to knock on the door. A guy ans…

Lots of high theft products should come with a stink bomb mode that sprays some disgusting sulfur based compound.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

>What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word.

He had ordered it, so had the order, he had the delivery picture, and so on.

And even if people can't just "walk into people's homes over your word" they could still knock on them, question the person, and investigate the theft complaint.

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>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

I had a POD, invoice, proof of purchase with serial number on it. Basically evidence. If the police can't take evidence and solve a crime then fuck 'em.

That's not really enough since you could for example have sold the device to him and then call the police.

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Even with all the hate Apple gets in the tech sphere, they do have a lot of very handy features in their products.

IMHO the volume of hate isn't so much once you calibrate for Apple setting high expectations for its products, and Apple selling these products by the metric crap-ton.

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I had a POD, invoice, proof of purchase with serial number on it. Basically evidence. If the police can't take evidence and solve a crime then fuck 'em.

That's not really enough since you could for example have sold the device to him and then call the police.

I could have indeed but that would be his risk if he didn't obtain proof of purchase or take an invoice or sales receipt from me.

Paperwork exists for a reason.

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>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

> They can't just walk into people's homes over your word Officer I was kidnapped, taken to this address and violently raped. "Sorry we just walk in to people's homes over your word" ? Half a dozen other scenarios come to mind.

Sure, there are emergency circumstances exceptions (not the case in this scenario). In general you would need a warrant with probable cause. That probable cause to get the warrant could be your sworn statement.

So they can't just walk in over your word. I has to be your word plus either a warrant or exigent circumstance.

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> Not sure if there's a name for that. Hill climbing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_climbing Basically: Go in any direction that makes the number go up. Repeat.

Gradient ascent?

Or gradient descent if you mentally negate the number in question. It's the same thing.

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That's not really enough since you could for example have sold the device to him and then call the police.

I could have indeed but that would be his risk if he didn't obtain proof of purchase or take an invoice or sales receipt from me. Paperwork exists for a reason.

Right. The point is that it would require a full police investigation, interviews, etc...

In my view at fault in these cases is the delivery company, they are in a hurry and don't bother doing a proper job. If they would be forced to eat the cost, this wouldn't happen anymore. Basically they are outsourcing their job to the police force.

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