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How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Wait until dark, shine a flashlight around and look for reflection off the glass. Or use a metal detector...

Note to self: put a piece of retroreflective tape on my phone. (I already have a roll of DOT stuff for bicycles, required on the front and rear forks if riding at night)

I did that with my dji drone, figured that when I eventually crash it and it ends up in some dense foliage, I could just go back at night and look for it with my torch looking for shiny 3M reflective tape.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

> But maybe they have their reasons.

Like what reasons? It's somewhat understandable that police might not want to investigate theft of relatively cheap item because they have to prioritize. But a stolen boat? At the very least it warrants some further investigation. Them dismissing it outright just seems bizarre since they do have some evidence they at least should come and talk to the owner.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

> OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something.

Isn’t a signal that is within a few feet of the door you want to enter good enough? It’s more authenticate than some random noise - you know it’s your device and not some random device emitting find my data.

Sounds like policing or judicial approach is outdated. If a police officer sees the stolen goods inside via a window, they can enter right? How are RF waves that they can see coming inside the property, and uniquely identify the property, any different?

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Here you go (2015): https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ridebeeline/beeline-sma... I thought it looked fun, but no way to justify the price.

£40? I guess if they get popular you will see the Chinese version at half that price, but it's hard to imagine a niche product at much cheaper. The cheapest Garmin watch is about 4x the price.

Huh, last time I thought about it was the kickstarter in 2015,and I remember it being closer to £120.

£40 is very reasonable :D

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

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Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Find My came to the rescue when my wife unknowingly dropped her phone during a pullover to take some pix. The turnout was on New Priest Grade, the best way to Yosemite from our home. Next morning, after the frenzied "Where's my phone" search petered out, we remembered Find My. No way, I thought. Rural road, many miles away, etc. Which new phone would you like, Dear? Find My immediately found it 43 miles away. My wife…

> There were enough passers-by with iOS devices that Find My worked as hoped.

Wouldn't the phone tell Apple servers where it was? No need for passer-bys.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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Find My came to the rescue when my wife unknowingly dropped her phone during a pullover to take some pix. The turnout was on New Priest Grade, the best way to Yosemite from our home. Next morning, after the frenzied "Where's my phone" search petered out, we remembered Find My. No way, I thought. Rural road, many miles away, etc. Which new phone would you like, Dear? Find My immediately found it 43 miles away. My wife…

Even with all the hate Apple gets in the tech sphere, they do have a lot of very handy features in their products.

IMHO the volume of hate isn't so much once you calibrate for Apple setting high expectations for its products, and Apple selling these products by the metric crap-ton.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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I had AirPods Max stolen from our car a few months ago. A week later they popped up on Find My a block away. I hopped on my bike and tracked to a small apartment building. Using Find My will show you a “warmer … warmer … colder” kind of UI and whenever I lifted my phone to a particular window (shades drawn) Find My would say “Nearby.” I called the police and they were genuinely excited to knock on the door. A guy ans…

What city do you live in?

From his company, probably Winona, Minnesota.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

#179

What's the difference in signal strength between bluetooth and wifi? I had assumed since they use the same frequency, and usually the same chip and antenna, they would be much the same (perhaps there are regulatory differences between them?) If anything, I'd guess that BLE would be more useful in this case as there is less handshaking, which means on a very poor connection you've got more of a chance of getting some…

> I had assumed since they use the same frequency, and usually the same chip and antenna Yes and no. Bluetooth is 2.4GHz, WiFi has many bands, including one around 2.4GHz. Those can share an antenna, but I think that means only one can be sending at a time (they could mix the signals, but I guess that would mean connection would fail for the less powerful Bluetooth signal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth : “I…

FWIW I was referring to 2.4GHz Wifi, which shares is basically exactly the same frequency range as bluetooth (14 Channels in 2412-2484MHz vs 80 channels in 2400-2483.5MHz). The devices I've been working with share a chip and antenna, though they can't typically do both at the same time without multiplexing.

I'm interested in, for this particular problem (finding a device using just wifi or bluetooth), which one would have the greater effective range.

Re: How to find a lost phone in a no-cell-coverage camping site?

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky there. UK here. A couple of years back I had a macbook pro delivered to me. It was delivered to the correct number on a different road. The POD had a photo of the front door and the person. I recognised the front door as it was on a local estate. Phoned delivery company up (DPD) and they said that they delivered it to the correct location and wouldn't do anything about it. Went round there and the guy said "um,…

>a good police force What do you expect the police to do in this situation? They can't just walk into people's homes over your word. OP at least had a noise which in the states I assume is probable cause or something. And even then they'd have to come back with a warrant but got the headphones because the suspect felt defeated. Your situation is bizarre, the helpless feeling of knowing where your stolen item is and n…

I had a POD, invoice, proof of purchase with serial number on it.

Basically evidence.

If the police can't take evidence and solve a crime then fuck 'em.

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