Their kms offering is cheaper and that alway free tier for a small vm still helps.
I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#292I'll continue beating the dead horse: I don't trust Google. At best GCP is slightly better than AWS (debatable), which is not enough to offset the risk because of how much of a pain it is to switch cloud providers. Even if GCP shutting down is one in a million, aws shutting down is 1 in ten million. Also, I keep getting the feeling that Google keeps trying to automate their customer service through bots. I have use q…
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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#293GCP has some nice things but AWS is simply more reliable. The GCP outage [1] in April is a great example. A fire in europe-west9-a "zone" took down the entire europe-west9 "region" (because this entire "region" is actually housed in a single datacenter), which then caused a global GCP console/API outage because GCP's single global control plane couldn't reach europe-west9. The fact that a zonal issue escalated to a r…
> because this entire "region" is actually housed in a single datacenter
From the incident report you linked:
"a cooling system water pipe leak occurred in one of the data centers in the europe-west9 region [...] Europe-west9 contains three buildings with independent cooling, power, and networking"
Also,
> a global GCP console/API outage because GCP's single global control plane couldn't reach europe-west9.
again, from that page,
"A small number of methods within the GCE control plane API must collect information from multiple regions or zones by making requests to each regional control plane (called fanout requests). Google Cloud services including Cloud Console depend on these methods. When the GCE control plane for the europe-west9 region and zones went offline, some of these fanout methods did not operate correctly. During the outage, this led to global unavailability for some pages and control plane operations within Cloud Console"
It's certainly not great that a regional problem had global impact, but there is some nuance. For example, that paragraph talks about "each" regional control plane, in addition to a global control plane.
I don't mean to belittle the importance of the incident. Suffice it to say lessons were learned and follow-up changes were made.
As for Nitro - take a look at C3. https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/introducing-c...
Disclosure: I work on GCE.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#294I'll continue beating the dead horse: I don't trust Google. At best GCP is slightly better than AWS (debatable), which is not enough to offset the risk because of how much of a pain it is to switch cloud providers. Even if GCP shutting down is one in a million, aws shutting down is 1 in ten million. Also, I keep getting the feeling that Google keeps trying to automate their customer service through bots. I have use q…
Agree 100%. They have done untold damage to their cloud business with their behaviour in the consumer space.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#295All of the smack talk about AWS rings true in my experience. The documentation is terrible and incomplete. That said… there's one MASSIVE reason I trust AWS over GCP. Google has a knack for killing products/services. Even when they seem to be popular. You don't know if a service will exist next week. But you took the time to invest in the ecosystem and get to know the offering… But Google does what Google does, and o…
Has Google killed Cloud services people relied on? I am asking in good faith as I don't know. Whether Google kills random small-traction consumer products is kind of orthogonal to the Cloud question. If Amazon retail discontinues some Amazon Basics product, we don't read into that for AWS.
They recently sold Google Domains to Squarespace which is messy given how it was integrated with Cloud Domains https://cloud.google.com/domains/docs/faq
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
I work for a fortune 100 company. Years ago we looked at all the cloud providers trying to determine who to go with. Google was thrown out on the first day for this very reason. They simply cannot be trusted not to kill their products at the drop of a hat.
I was expecting rigorous analysis in terms of cost of services and the complexity/simplicity of offering, reliability figures, etc. but this fortune 100 company went with feelings
May be the analysis is so overwhelming clear that it can be done in one day.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, sure. I totally get where you're coming from. By the way, how's the Fire Phone holding up for you these days? I assume it's still working well and powerful enough to do your web searches on a9.com, and read sites like the Amapedia and DPReviews. Do you happen to know how many of the Alexa.com top500 sites it can browse, or do you need to ask on Amazon Askville? But I know it won't be able to play Amazon's hit g…
I bet if you combine every single one of those products, they have less users than stadia
Book Depository alone was much more popular.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
App Runner is an abstraction on top of FarGate designed to compete with Cloud Run, which is why it doesn’t scale down to zero. I too haven’t found anything that beats the simplicity of a GCP deployment sigh..
If it doesn't scale down to zero, then it doesn't compete with Cloud Run.
It depends on use case. Some corps don't care about down to zero.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#299As much as I don’t like using a Google product, I have to admit GCP is wonderful. I really think GCP is the best UX Google has to offer. My favorite feature is that whatever you do on the web console, GCP will show you the equivalent gcloud CLI command. It can also give you the Terraform plan for some already created resources (maybe it’s even everywhere? Not sure)
The configuration and naming of the services is also wayyy more sane than AWS overall, you actually know what they do from the name only most of the time.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#300GCP allows editing memory and CPU on VMs, which is super handy.