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Rich Hickey on Datomic: Datalog, Databases, Persistent Data Structures

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Re: Rich Hickey on Datomic: Datalog, Databases, Persistent Data Structures

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I never understood Amazon's stance. Their whitepaper and case studies just says medical companies have built applications on our cloud. What they fail to mention is whether they were only able to do so by anonymizing the data prior to upload which means in fact there isn't any PHI on their clould. They seem to circumvent these disclosures for the obvious reasons of liability and the fact that today you really need a…

I worked for a company that had a large amount of HIPAA data on Amazon's EC2 platform. We did significant encryption (including field-level encryption) on the data to help mitigate security concerns. We were able to pass security inspections by 4 fortune 500 health companies with this model (though a couple of them needed significant hand-holding). It made querying that data a pain in the ass because you couldn't do…

Thanks for the info. Just curious were the encryption keys stored on EC2 as well? Dataomic client/peer model is definitely interesting.

Re: Rich Hickey on Datomic: Datalog, Databases, Persistent Data Structures

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I work in a hospital and alot of the things he talks about would be quite cool. Immutability: we have one big as table with tons of stuff in it (this is not the db design you learned in school) and and even bigger table of all the changes made. The way this is handeld in datomic would be optimal. Querys: Query all the data based on a time stamp would be really useful. Querys where I could combine the DB data with som…

Would you be able to use a database hosted on EC2?

I don't know what legal requirements we have, but I don't think EC2 would work, atm its all on servers inhause. I was talking about the concepts and ideas not the way datomic implements them atm.

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I worked for a company that had a large amount of HIPAA data on Amazon's EC2 platform. We did significant encryption (including field-level encryption) on the data to help mitigate security concerns. We were able to pass security inspections by 4 fortune 500 health companies with this model (though a couple of them needed significant hand-holding). It made querying that data a pain in the ass because you couldn't do…

Thanks for the info. Just curious were the encryption keys stored on EC2 as well? Dataomic client/peer model is definitely interesting.

They were, but not on the same nodes as the data was on. They were in a different AWS security zone with different ssh keys/access privileges.
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