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Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by baz00 »

kjksf wrote: post #211
baz00 wrote: post #203

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I actually have to pay for Adobe because I need the features (signing, annotation, redaction, OCR etc). Does SumatraPDF cover those at all? As for startup speed, it's not really an issue as Adobe just lurks there all day in the taskbar for me at least ready to roll.

In latest version you can annotate (highlight, underline etc.) and create a few other annotation types and move them. More / better annotation editing, signing, redaction is something I want to do. OCR - I don't have a good handle on how important that is.

Thanks will look into it. Reply appreciated.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by solarman5000 »

kjksf wrote: post #211
baz00 wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually have to pay for Adobe because I need the features (signing, annotation, redaction, OCR etc). Does SumatraPDF cover those at all? As for startup speed, it's not really an issue as Adobe just lurks there all day in the taskbar for me at least ready to roll.

In latest version you can annotate (highlight, underline etc.) and create a few other annotation types and move them. More / better annotation editing, signing, redaction is something I want to do. OCR - I don't have a good handle on how important that is.

I have to pay for about 30 adobe acrobat licenses a year

I would much rather throw this money your way, but I need those features

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by nirav72 »

Helmut10001 wrote: post #128

SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…

Adobe Acrobat reader installer is also almost a 1 gb download these days. One thing I do find that Acrobat does better is compression. I can usually reduce a PDF down to about 30%-40% of its original size without much loss in quality. I've tried other tools and they haven't worked nearly as well.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by slikrick »

rizky05 wrote: post #121
whizzter wrote: post #115

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Honestly, this is a guy who uses GDI, so most of the above options will feel bloated already when looking at the source tarball sizes. That said, has there been any fundamentally groundbreaking crossplatform classic UI toolkits released since the 90s? (IMGui is the only one that has seemed interesting but that's specialized and not a general one really)

There are plethora of cross-platform UI toolkit, each have their own philosophy. IMO, current popular toolkit have declarative aspect in it. Believe or not the most mature UI toolkit is the one built for chromium. It just works everywhere. EDIT: Another commenter suggest only office as example. IIRC, they are building it using chromium as front-end and .NET as backend.

if by plethora you mean different web implementations, sure. but there has basically been less than a handful cross platform UI toolkits since GTK/QT

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by _wf2l »

dharmab wrote: post #190
kjksf wrote: post #166

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(I wrote SumatraPDF). I agree that Adobe has more features than SumatraPDF. Not necessarily the PDF spec itself - SumatraPDF displays pretty much any PDF you throw at it, just way more options and stuff. And it's not exactly slow. I'm sure the core rendering of PDF pages is same or faster. It's just slow to start. Like very, very, sluggish slow. And it's very visible to users. I don't think it's the features that cau…

> SumatraPDF displays pretty much any PDF you throw at it, just way more options and stuff Sumatra includes a 3D renderer to display embedded CAD models? https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/displaying-3d-models-p...

what did you think this gotcha was? you just look annoying and pretentious. he didn't say literally every PDF for a reason

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by slikrick »

dharmab wrote: post #249
legends2k wrote: post #228

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I understood "pretty much" as "most" but not "all". I've been viewing PDFs for 20+ years and never encountered one with 3D content so ”pretty much” seems like a good adjective to use here for me.

In engineering and manufacturing it's an essential feature used daily.

that doesn't explain you purposefully misunderstanding people

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by cstork12 »

RNAlfons wrote: post #256
noAnswer wrote: post #247

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What "older and larger" company do you have in mind? What ever you do, never choose CGM! They wouldn't even be able to spell "test" if their live depended on it! Nothing new ever works, like at all. Everything older needs at least one or two server restarts a day!

medavis for example. I know CGM from medico...their KIS is a nightmare. We have to communicate with it in hospitals. What an ugly monster and somehow no hospital IT is able to admin it properly.

Wow, didn't expect to see medavis mentioned here on HN. I'm currently writing Data Warehouse software (and more) interfacing with their RIS. However, I don't really know what their testing practices are.

Which of their products are you considering?

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by wolverine876 »

hju22_-3 wrote: post #259
wolverine876 wrote: post #251

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How is the remote reference rendered, other than by executing a renderer for that format in a window? Renderers for web pages, for example, are very powerful platforms with a long history of security issues.

I think you've misunderstood the feature. It shows an overlay window of another part of the same PDF you're already in. It doesn't open another PDF or a website or anything, it's just a small preview of another page essentially. You could just as easily scroll to where the reference is placed in the PDF, but this lets you quickly preview the section without actually leaving your position in the document.

I did misunderstand; you are correct. Thanks for explaining it.

And that is indeed very useful!

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by ParetoOptimal »

magical_spell wrote: post #204
Helmut10001 wrote: post #128

SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…

Pdf-tools in Emacs is also great.

And it has a killer feature:

pdf-view-themed-minor-mode

It matches the pdf style/colors to your emacs theme! Sort of like a dark reader for pdfs, but it automatically adjusts to any theme based on some good but likely imperfect heuristics.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Post by vGPU »

> This comes back to Jeff Bezos’ wisdom: there will never be a time when users want bloated and slow apps so being small and fast is a permanent advantage.

A nugget Bezos seems to have forgotten.

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