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Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing
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Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing
#402Earlier quoted context omitted.
perhaps social media hasn't caused cancer but I'd bet it's caused suicides, eating disorders, and a burden on the mental healthcare system
ah so like gq, vogue, teen magazines, mtv, hollywood - the traditional media.
exactly so, and we should be doing something about all harmful advertising to children in proportion to the harm that it's causing. If facebook is a larger problem than teen magazines then that's where our attention should be.
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm mid 20's and it's obvious what to do. Universal child care, housing, healthcare, etc, and parents would have more time to parent their kids instead of slaving away to make someone else enough money to buy their fifth yacht or passing their childcare off to an ipad. We have worse than gilded age inequality, 9 people own more wealth than 3.6 BILLION combined. Maybe address that first??? I'd wager we'd find 99% of p…
If you look at history, the biggest changes that allow people more free time to spend with their children or otherwise, are technological ones. Look at the mechanical loom (industrialisation), pesticides (agricultural yield increase), penicillin (life expectancy increase), painkillers (life quality increase), clean water (wide-spread infrastructure), cheap microwaves (overseas slave labour), reliable vehicles for all…
>the biggest changes that allow people more free time to spend with their children or otherwise, are technological ones.
The important bit to note here is the allocation of that gain in efficiency. I agree tech is the driver of the positive sum games we call the economy, but it's important to note that on top of technology we need a political apparatus that allocates the efficiency gain. Ie a 30% increase in productivity should yield not a 30% increase in profits but maybe a 5% increase and a 25% reduction of time spent doing labor or 25% increase in wages. Obviously the numbers are variable, but I thought it important to note this too.
>The billionaires aren’t blocking us.
People hoarding more wealth than BILLIONS combined aren't blocking us?
You can seriously, earnestly think, in your heart of hearts, that hoarding that much wealth for yourself doesn't deprive some other more worthy endeavor of resources??
>When electric lightbulbs came to the masses, it made some rich people even richer, but that’s not the important part.
Not THE important part, I can agree with you. But AN important part, still. It might not be sensible to accost the inventor of the light bulb for the effect of his invention, but it should always be carefully noted the above mentioned calculation of where the efficiency gain is allocated. Did allowance of working at night, doubling the possible working hours allow any reduction of labor or increase in wages? Or did it simply increase profit?
I agree the profit itself is not the problem, the billionaires themselves aren't technically the problem, merely a symptom of an ill designed allocation of the fruits of technology. But to act like 9 people hoarding more than billions of people combined isn't detrimental to any goal other than the enrichment of those 9? I name you silly, sir.
>Taxing billionaires won’t accelerate any of this.
I mean, if we JUST tax them and then burn the tax money we get from them, sure... But if we spend the taxes on the above mentioned goals... You somehow think they wouldn't be achieved quicker???
Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing
#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm mid 20's and it's obvious what to do. Universal child care, housing, healthcare, etc, and parents would have more time to parent their kids instead of slaving away to make someone else enough money to buy their fifth yacht or passing their childcare off to an ipad. We have worse than gilded age inequality, 9 people own more wealth than 3.6 BILLION combined. Maybe address that first??? I'd wager we'd find 99% of p…
While I agree with the general sentiment, poverty and inequality are wildly different problems (e.g. modern capitalism tends to increase inequality but also decrease poverty).
Wildly different, sure, but deeply, deeply connected which is why I include them together. There is no reason we can't decrease poverty AND inequality. In fact decreasing inequality would in turn reduce poverty if done correctly.
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#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zero trolling: When did this become obvious to you? And why/how?
Slowly over the course of the last 48 years. There was no pivotal moment. Probably the key thing was the realisation that even with the very good wage i'm on, I was unlikely to be able to save enough deposit money to buy a house in my city without at least one of my parents passing away. And then the realisation that there are people that work far harder than me, earn far less, and understanding that they are in an e…
If you want to think about the correlation between hard work and income, watch someone operating a jackhammer and then visit a golf course.
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#406Earlier quoted context omitted.
A good book on this is The Coddling of the American Mind. It argues several factors (including social media, safteyism, and the decline in unstructured play time) are responsible for the significant rise in young adult mental health issues that started around 2012. Good read.
"Hand the kid an iPad and ignore them for 4 hours" also started around 2012.
A generation before it was just sitting kids in front of the tv…
Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing
#407Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm mid 20's and it's obvious what to do. Universal child care, housing, healthcare, etc, and parents would have more time to parent their kids instead of slaving away to make someone else enough money to buy their fifth yacht or passing their childcare off to an ipad. We have worse than gilded age inequality, 9 people own more wealth than 3.6 BILLION combined. Maybe address that first??? I'd wager we'd find 99% of p…
If you look at history, the biggest changes that allow people more free time to spend with their children or otherwise, are technological ones. Look at the mechanical loom (industrialisation), pesticides (agricultural yield increase), penicillin (life expectancy increase), painkillers (life quality increase), clean water (wide-spread infrastructure), cheap microwaves (overseas slave labour), reliable vehicles for all…
> If you look at history, the biggest changes that allow people more free time to spend with their children or otherwise, are technological ones.
There's also the 40-hour, 5-day workweek; the end of child labor, parental leave - those developments, and more like them, led to more time with children than the mechanical loom.
In fact, as technology has improved, it's possible that the proportion of children with a parent devoted full-time to them has decreased (because now families need two incomes).
Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing
#4081) Since blocking social media for one's children is trivial, does it mean all the parents affected are guilty of neglect? Is there a reverse class action lawsuit? Oh wait, that's bad for election prospects, better go after evil big businesses. 2) There really needs to be a rule for frivolous shakedown lawsuits of the kind EU and now apparently US states practice, where monetary damages are paid either way - if the f…
As to 1) The prisoners dillema is a pretty basic example of how the best possible co-ordinated action is not necesarily the best possible individual action. i.e.
other kids not on social media/ your kid not on social media Δ0 happiness
other kids not on social media/ your kid on social media Δ-3 happiness
other kids on social media/ your kid on social media Δ-10 happiness
other kids on social media/ your kid not not social media Δ-50 happiness
Maybe some form of co-ordination might be in the parents best interest... maybe some form of representative could do something about it if it's in the kids best interest?
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#409> Company has said it has improved resources to keep kids safe This is the logic of psychopaths.
Classic orphan crushing machine
Exactly. And it’s perfect that it gets downvoted to oblivion.
Its like hacker news poetry.
Maybe they should stop putting kids at risk in the first place.
Those downvoted are badges of honor on this one. Shameful.
Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing
#410Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Not being able to scale is YOUR problem, not MINE." Indeed, it is doubtful that these mega-sized websites were intended by the original architects of the www. More likely, they may have imagined the web as a whole would grow (scale) as more people gained internet access. Instead the "Silicon Six" intend only to scale their own gargantuan websites that they now refer to as "platforms". All web publishing and even int…
Not saying I think it's a good outcome but I don't see why it's relevant what the "original architects" thought. This is just a variant of 'argument from authority'.
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