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Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
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Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#92I never understood Microsoft's desire to use "Windows" in their mobile device marketing. That might have barely made sense back when computing was dominated by geeks, but nobody in 2023 truly cares whether their phone runs a form of Windows, just as they wouldn't care if an iPhone runs iOS instead of macOS; they want a device that does the things they want. Windows today represents more of a necessary evil than somet…
Windows Mobile as a brand came out in 2003. The "Windows" brand itself was massive in that era. Apple branding isn't too much more inspiring (Mac to iMac to iPhone).
You missed off iPod!
Mac -> iMac -> iPod -> iPhone
Obviously the iPod gives us AirPods and HomePods.
I imagine there are users of *Pod devices that have never seen or used an iPod!
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft tried the Kinect for 13 years. How long are they supposed to let a product run? It was a cool tech solution in search of a problem.
You're glossing over a big part of the story. It is hard, really, really hard, to convince game developers and publishers to make games that require an optional accessory. It's been tried again and again and it is never more than a mild success and usually an abject failure. They want to target the base platform, which will always have a dramatically larger install base. Thr original Kinect was just such an optional…
Microsoft chickened out because Sony was absolutely slaughtering them in sales by being $100 cheaper.
Granted price isn’t the only reason - MS’s self-inflicted bad PRs and slightly lower graphical performance of the XB1 - but it really wasn’t helping.
At the end of the day, their core demographic wasn’t interested in the gimmick that was the Kinect.
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#94I loved my windows phones so much. lumia 900 and 920. I totally bought in to the microsoft ecosystem because I wanted to keep using that phone OS and those phones. but the ecosystem sucked ass. none of microsoft's google/apple equivalents were up to par. one night when xbox music said I didn't have license to play any of my music on a long car ride home was the last straw. I bought a galaxy note 3 that evening when I…
Is it just me or is Windows phone looked back on with really heavy nostalgia? I never found it to be revolutionary or beautiful, and while I would welcome more players in the mobile space, I think Microsoft's behavior in every other part of its business makes me glad that their foray into mobile never took off.
Windows Phone and Zune are looked back with nostalgia. As someone that had both (including a Zune HD), I don't get it either. I wish I could go tell my teenage self to get over my short-lived "anti-Apple" phase and just ask for an iPod Touch in 2009.
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft tried the Kinect for 13 years. How long are they supposed to let a product run? It was a cool tech solution in search of a problem.
You're glossing over a big part of the story. It is hard, really, really hard, to convince game developers and publishers to make games that require an optional accessory. It's been tried again and again and it is never more than a mild success and usually an abject failure. They want to target the base platform, which will always have a dramatically larger install base. Thr original Kinect was just such an optional…
That's not how you bring in adoption or sell products. They should have build something amazing using Kinect that everyone would have wanted one and not cared about buying it separately. Then if everyone had one then devs would have come. But they themselves did not have some amazing use for it.
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#96I never understood Microsoft's desire to use "Windows" in their mobile device marketing. That might have barely made sense back when computing was dominated by geeks, but nobody in 2023 truly cares whether their phone runs a form of Windows, just as they wouldn't care if an iPhone runs iOS instead of macOS; they want a device that does the things they want. Windows today represents more of a necessary evil than somet…
Funny you say that. I was watching the Apple iPhone keynote, the first one, and one of the things Jobs mentions is it runs Mac OSX.
"Almost the truth, but not" slogan, Wait till you see their now redacted page about how they were the first large opensource company.
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#97I loved my mpx200 when everyone else had their Nokia candy bars. Small flip phone, outside display, SD card, USB connectivity, windows platform. I still have it.
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows Mobile as a brand came out in 2003. The "Windows" brand itself was massive in that era. Apple branding isn't too much more inspiring (Mac to iMac to iPhone).
Many people confused Windows Phone with Windows Mobile, which came with all sorts of baggage of bad experiences. So I agree with GP, that dropping the Windows name would have been a smart move
Windows phone was garbage though,with no real multi tasking and IE as the only browser.
Nokia/Elop screwed up big time by going with this and it killed Nokia
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#99For me the saddest thing is not Windows Phone going away, it's Nokia not going all the way with their Qt based Linux distro, Meego. I had a Nokia N9 smartphone, the UI was amazing. It took 5 (I think?) years for iOS and Android to sort of copy the gesture based UI, badly. Damn internal corporate politics at Nokia.
Elop was clearly a mole.
I use the Nokia N9 alarm clock was an example of a perfect piece of software.
Re: Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
#100If I am not mistaken Windows Phone had some steep competition from Google, Google was actively trying to block any of its services (e.g. youtube) from working on the platform. With popularity of google products at the time it was very hard to convince people to stick to the platform.
Microsoft were the ones who made Windows Phone IE only and a walled garden like iOS