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Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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So if your app gets too "good" and users use it too much, then you have broken the law? Interesting logic to think through.

Yeah, I guess if your heroine hits right and the fiends keep coming back for more, it should just be legal. I think the issue here is that these apps are designed to defeat even the little self control that humans are capable of.

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#283

As someone who is very pro Free Speech and hates censorships in general, banning these toxic social media especially for Kids is a good idea and as a parent, I am all in for it. If you cannot smoke/drink till 21, you shouldn't be able to do Social media till then. It is that bad especially for children.

Yeah, but why not also ban candy, soda, junk food, video games ect?

If we can't trust parents to parent their kids then why not ban everything that possibly could be bad for kids?

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Good. For once I’ll agree with the governance in Utah and say we should ban social media for kids until they are 18.

So no kids on Hacker News? How is HN going to verify my age?

January 1st Club, Reporting In.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#285

As someone who is very pro Free Speech and hates censorships in general, banning these toxic social media especially for Kids is a good idea and as a parent, I am all in for it. If you cannot smoke/drink till 21, you shouldn't be able to do Social media till then. It is that bad especially for children.

I'm not necessarily against putting an age limit on social media, but I can't for the life of me figure out a definition of what social media is that wouldn't be either useless for this purpose or make using the Internet impossible for kids.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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I'm impressed by the strong negative reactions on this thread. Maybe because this is a US-centric forum, or because I don't have kids, but I fail to see the big deal with Meta. Facebook is mostly groups with little engagements. Nowadays, people really fight on Twitter which has less moderation. Then Instagram, I thought kids were on Tik Tok? Well, I can see how some people might be negatively impacted by this sites b…

There's an amazing subtlety here, which is that Governments are slow to function and rarely regulate well. That they're targeting Meta instead of what kids actually use (TikTok) highlights this fact. So not only will they fail to achieve their goal, they're not even going after the right player. But hey the cultural movement of Americans these days are to hate on big tech, and Facebook in particular. So here we go.

What’s hilarious is that they’re going after TikTok but because it’s a national threat (lol)

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#287

As someone who is very pro Free Speech and hates censorships in general, banning these toxic social media especially for Kids is a good idea and as a parent, I am all in for it. If you cannot smoke/drink till 21, you shouldn't be able to do Social media till then. It is that bad especially for children.

I agree that it's a bad idea to let kids do this, but... you can still smoke/drink at home if your parents let you.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#288

As someone who is very pro Free Speech and hates censorships in general, banning these toxic social media especially for Kids is a good idea and as a parent, I am all in for it. If you cannot smoke/drink till 21, you shouldn't be able to do Social media till then. It is that bad especially for children.

Yeah, but why not also ban candy, soda, junk food, video games ect? If we can't trust parents to parent their kids then why not ban everything that possibly could be bad for kids?

Most of those things have become subject to both government regulation and industry self-policing, and there’s continual debate over whether there needs to be more done and what shape it might take.

Just getting to that point with social media will be a big win.

The social media industry came on quick and got a free pass for a while, but it’s now more mature and needs to become more mindful of its social consequences just the same as other industries. Whether that needs to come through bans and regulation or can be achieved through voluntary self-restraint is up to the big players and their egos.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#289

So if your app gets too "good" and users use it too much, then you have broken the law? Interesting logic to think through.

Think less “app too good” and more “big tobacco strategy”. Because let’s not kid ourselves: that’s exactly what these apps are trying to do – become as addictive as possible. On purpose.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because at some point you decide that some threshold is useful to have, and stop sealioning on the internet about it

This is the first I’ve heard the term sealioning. Just looked it up and man, it feels like one of those foreign words that perfectly describe something that we encounter all the time. Thanks!

Doesn't seem to relate to the Wikipedia definition:

> Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter

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