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It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…
I guess some people will still (try to) make it themselves, but last time it came up here someone posted about how mass production has just moved on to some other synthesis that isn't dependent on buying a precursor in small retail quantities: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37499106
CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless
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Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless
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People blissfully treated with placebos because the stuff that actually worked can be kind of hardcore. My (I’ve learned: unpopular) opinion is that not everything is a cosmic wrongness that demands a 1Hr Photo of a fix. It’s okay to just work through a cold with rest and water and warm beverages.
> It’s okay to just work through a cold with rest and water and warm beverages. Spot the person with no children and no job responsibilities!
Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless
#123A Simple and Convenient Synthesis of Pseudoephedrine From N-Methylamphetamine
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's already easy to buy the stuff that works. You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase). You'll need to get over that, because I don't think the rate limit is going anywhere: psuedoephedrine essentially is methamphetamine, and it's the worst conceivable kind: the kind…
In my experience (perhaps my state), a pharmacy will now only dispense pseudoephedrine to you they "know you." As in, you regularly fill other medications at that pharmacy. If you don't take other medications? I don't know, I assume you're fucked.
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> Up to the counter and ask...when the counter is open that is increasingly a problem as pharmacies close and hours are limited (the two nearest me close at 6pm, right at the end of working hours). Probably covered by the FMLA or any boss who isn't an asshole, or since it's OTC, have someone grab it for you, or get it on your lunch, or task rabbit it. > Show ID...that the pharmacist will accept (not all of us drive o…
There are regulations that exist specifically to stop people from buying pseudoephedrine for someone else, anti-"smurfing" laws. Some places make you sign a government waiver that confirms you're only buying Sudafed for yourself, a family member, or someone in your household. There are limits on how much a single person and household can buy or have, as well. It's not something you can use Task Rabbit for, and anyone…
Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless
#126My understanding is that they are only removing products that ONLY contain Phenylephrine, which means they will still sell it when it is part of multiple-ingredient formulations, which are in themselves kind of a scam. For example, many OTC "severe cold/flu" formulations contain: - Acetaminophen. Potentially helpful for the body aches that come with the flu, but a lot of the time when I'm sick, I don't exactly need o…
Well, it doesn’t help that most states require you to go to the pharmacy counter for the stuff that actually works (pseudoephedrine), and in some states you actually need a prescription.
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#127Re: CVS ditches common cold meds after FDA advisers say they're useless
#128My understanding is that they are only removing products that ONLY contain Phenylephrine, which means they will still sell it when it is part of multiple-ingredient formulations, which are in themselves kind of a scam. For example, many OTC "severe cold/flu" formulations contain: - Acetaminophen. Potentially helpful for the body aches that come with the flu, but a lot of the time when I'm sick, I don't exactly need o…
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You just have to go up to the counter and ask. You have to show ID, just like you do for liquor (and, because purchases of psuedoephedrine are rate-limited, they're going to log your purchase) Up to the counter and ask...when the counter is open that is increasingly a problem as pharmacies close and hours are limited (the two nearest me close at 6pm, right at the end of working hours). Show ID...that the pharmacist…
The only reason I have a state ID is for buying Sudafed. I was tired of "my system won't scan your passport". I disagree with the person that replied to you, you really don't need a state ID for anything.
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Not harmless with Acetaminophen of they don't realize it and also take pills at the same time, pretty narrow range to liver damage.
You might be thinking of aspirin, which is toxic at fairly low dosages. Acetaminophen (aka Tylenol) is much, much safer.
Aspirin has a lower standard dose (325 mg), higher LD50 (probably around 20-25 g), and is generally safer. It has fallen out of favor because it's known to cause an exceedingly rare but deadly syndrome in a tiny percentage of children, and because it can have gastroenterological side effects.
Ibuprofen is probably the safest option? I'm sure it can be overdosed, but it almost never happens, whereas acetaminophen results in tons of hospitalizations every year.