The linked article says nothing about showing ads in "New Outlook." It certainly is not below MS to do so and I believe the submitter, but the linked article does not say a word about it.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just switch to Linux already. It's really there. Some compromises required, sure, but they are already far and between. Keep it for gaming if you need. But give Proton a try first. My almost 75yo dad switched recently. I swear I'm telling the truth: his main complaint was, after buying a new printer, he couldn't find the matching drivers. I told him just to print, and that was that.
> Just switch to Linux already. I did this. Again. After running Linux as my main desktop OS from about 1992 - 1999, and some years since then. > It's really there. Some compromises required, sure, but they are already far and between. I'm not sure about that, and borderline disagree. There are a lot of compromises: - The Linux desktop is far flakier and far less elegant than Windows and especially macOS. KDE's a lit…
Let's just agree to disagree. I grew up with Windows, learnt programming on it, was C++ proficient, COM, COM+, switched to C#, .NET, WinForms, WPF ... and that was when it got too much. If you know Windows, you probably can at least feel why. I earned quite a lot of money with Windows.
I had tons of apps on Windows, and all alternatives on Linux are better to me (IntelliJ vs. Visual Studio, VS Code the same, CodeLion). I had a MacOS stint in the middle of the transition, so maybe that's a difference.
But still: I'm not you, you are not me, and that's okay. I'm just proof that it is probably subjective, and not objective, what you describe.
And regarding the desktop OS experience: couldn't disagree more. But, as already said, probably taste :)
Re: Windows 11's default mail client will show ads starting 2024
#23Windows just keeps getting worse. 7 was pretty good, 10 is ok, 11 is trash.
Maybe 2024 will be the year of Linux on my desktop.
Re: Windows 11's default mail client will show ads starting 2024
#24"Mail" on Windows notified me that starting with 2024, Outlook will replace it as the new default Mail client on Windows. It also asked me if I want to switch now. I decided to try it out and during setup of the new free Outlook I got asked how I want to see my ads: As a banner above the mail window or in my inbox. This took my by surprise since it essentially means, that the default mail client for Windows now will…
> I decided to try it out and during setup of the new free Outlook I got asked how I want to see my ads: As a banner above the mail window or in my inbox
It's absurd of them to even imply that anyone wants to see the ads at all. They clearly know that given the option, pretty much everyone would answer the question "where do you want to see your ads in your mail client" with "nowhere". There are certainly products where I grudgingly recognize that ads are the only way they're able to provide the product at all, but I can't see how they possibly could claim that here when they're literally going out of their way to move people towards using it.
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#25When I switched to Linux in university, it was as an idle curiosity and the pleasure of knowing my OS was FOSS. I knew I was sacrificing a bit of practicality, but like the person that works on their vintage motorcycle in the garage, the hassle was part of the fun.
I would often run Windows on a second machine or at work though, I felt equally productive in both Linux and Windows.
Fast-forward a decade and the Linux desktop situation has improved and the Windows situation has gotten worse, such that switching to Windows 11 is a total non-starter for me.
I dual-boot Windows 10 w/ Ubuntu because of the odd game or two that is beyond Proton's reach, but that happens less and less each day. I'd be willing to bet that I won't need that Windows partition at all soon.
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#26What an excellent reason to rip that app out using Win10Privacy, and run with something more privacy-friendly like Thunderbird.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the idea that most people use browser-based email clients anyway?
Why? Then you have to open your browser. I use Evolution.
> Why? Then you have to open your browser.
To me, the question isn't "why use my browser", it's "why use something else when I already have a browser and it's always open"?
Re: Windows 11's default mail client will show ads starting 2024
#28"Mail" on Windows notified me that starting with 2024, Outlook will replace it as the new default Mail client on Windows. It also asked me if I want to switch now. I decided to try it out and during setup of the new free Outlook I got asked how I want to see my ads: As a banner above the mail window or in my inbox. This took my by surprise since it essentially means, that the default mail client for Windows now will…
I've been out of the loop due to using Linux the last 20 years, but back when I was using Windows XP, the default mail client was also called Outlook (well, Outlook Express).
So apparently I missed some time period where it was called "Mail" instead. But now it'll be Outlook again. Full circle!
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#29The linked article says nothing about showing ads in "New Outlook." It certainly is not below MS to do so and I believe the submitter, but the linked article does not say a word about it.
New Outlook does have ads, and this move replaces Mail with Outlook therefore the default mail client will now have ads because it's Outlook. You can remove them with a 365 subscription. So while the article doesn't mention it, the statement is true.
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#30One of the things I’ve appreciated a lot about macOS and iOS is that the stock Mail app is focused more on being a good generic email client than it is on trying to sell iCloud or be a profit center. It’s served me very well for the handful of IMAP addresses I use, with exception to Gmail (which has a dodgy IMAP implementation).
The Windows Mail client was on its way to becoming a close analogue to Mail.app but I guess those days are over.