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Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by gabeio »

ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote: post #96
bertil wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook's own research has pointed at the harmful effects of Instagram on the mental health of children Facebook’s own research has found both positive and negative effects, depending on the child’s status among their peers. The Verge is quick to point out that: > Instagram makes teen girls feel worse about their bodies but more discreet in reminding people that fashion magazines, including The Cut (also published…

How does Instagram re-socialise people with physical handicaps?

Allowing them to find friends which have similar positions/situations who understand what they live with.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by tempsy »

Manuel_D wrote: post #93
tempsy wrote: post #86

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No idea what you're saying. The NYT A/B testing headlines is not something that impacts teen mental health in the same way that social media impacts mental health.

Does it? Has there been any research done on the effect of NYT content? This comment reads a lot more like assumptions and stereotypes.

We're talking about two different things. You're focused on the legality of this lawsuit. The only thing I'm pointing out is that it isn't very difficult to believe social media has a negative impact on mental health in its current form and is likely the source of teen self-esteem issues, body image issues, and inability to concentrate.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by mcpackieh »

duringmath wrote: post #51
swatcoder wrote: post #43

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Whether courts can pin that sentiment down against prior laws may determine if these "lawsuits have merit" as you say, but the concern and calls for action exist and are growing regardless of how the lawsuits happen to settle. All these companies know they're a target for accountability now, and even many people inside of them acknowledge a need for reform and possibly restitution. Your comment seems focused on the p…

The abdication of parenteral responsibility is another element here.

In other conversational contexts on this forum, people laugh and gloat about how ineffectual parental control over internet consumption is. Kids find a way, any attempt to lock things down will be quickly circumvented as kids turn computer hacker to access the unfiltered internet. But as soon as the conversation turns to regulating tech businesses, we get people like you pretending that parents have all the responsibility and can easily ban their kids from social media if they simply bothered to try and that failure to do so is nothing more than the product of parental neglect.

The same plays out with "just talk to your kids". In conversations about regulating businesses, the narrative is that parents can simply talk to their kids and persuade them to not use social media. But in other conversations, the narrative is that kids are naturally rebellious and have a strong "always do the opposite of what my parents suggest" instinct.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by dylan604 »

happytiger wrote: post #89
bertil wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook's own research has pointed at the harmful effects of Instagram on the mental health of children Facebook’s own research has found both positive and negative effects, depending on the child’s status among their peers. The Verge is quick to point out that: > Instagram makes teen girls feel worse about their bodies but more discreet in reminding people that fashion magazines, including The Cut (also published…

I’m good with damming them all and getting rid of shit technology directions that hurt people, especially kids. Who is actually ok with this?

The people making money from it; either the company itself or the employees working for it that are designing it. They clearly do not have issues with it.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by dylan604 »

antiviral wrote: post #84
pixl97 wrote: post #10

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How often again do you hear billionaires say "Oh no, I wish I had been more ethical and not made mountains of cash off by shitty behavior", because I'm not having any recollections of this. The fines are just a cost of doing business for them.

Most businesses need to buy their raw materials to produce their products. With Meta, the raw material is consumer data, which users have been giving away to Meta freely. The fines only slightly raise the cost of this raw material from $0, so it's unlikely to deter Meta's behavior until someone faces a more severe penalty there.

Strip mining users since 2004!

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by ryanklee »

pixl97 wrote: post #10
barbazoo wrote: post #3

> Meta, along with Snap, TikTok, and Google, now face hundreds of lawsuits claiming they are to blame for adolescents and young adults suffering anxiety, depression, eating disorders, and sleeplessness as a result of their addiction to social media. The companies also face scores of complaints by public school districts on behalf of students alleging that the platforms have created a public nuisance. I hope the money…

How often again do you hear billionaires say "Oh no, I wish I had been more ethical and not made mountains of cash off by shitty behavior", because I'm not having any recollections of this. The fines are just a cost of doing business for them.

What people think and feel in private is often not what they admit in public. For many of these individuals, there is massive incentive not to admit such things.

Doesn't make it right, but we shouldn't assume the people responsible don't feel responsible simply because we aren't hearing about it.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by Manuel_D »

tempsy wrote: post #102
Manuel_D wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it? Has there been any research done on the effect of NYT content? This comment reads a lot more like assumptions and stereotypes.

We're talking about two different things. You're focused on the legality of this lawsuit. The only thing I'm pointing out is that it isn't very difficult to believe social media has a negative impact on mental health in its current form and is likely the source of teen self-esteem issues, body image issues, and inability to concentrate.

"it isn't very difficult to believe..." is an incredibly weak statement. People believe all sorts of demonstrably false things. I expect much more robust argument than assumptions and speculation. The actual study [1] that kicked off this moral panic, in fact, found that Instagram was more likely to make people feel better than feel worse - despite most media outlets claims the opposite.

1. https://about.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Instagram-Te...

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