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Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…

May I recommend NAPS2 ? https://www.naps2.com/

It's like PDF4QT but works and feel better to me.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#182
post #86

Wow, I just installed this for the first time and its performance blows both Adobe Reader (not an achievement) and Foxit (something of an achievement) out of the water! Nice work by these devs. And its install footprint is around 10% of those programs. What the hell is Adobe doing, I wonder, that makes their software so unbearably slow and painful to use?

> What the hell is Adobe doing Maybe they're handling every posts feature wish list? Like every comment so far here is Sumatra is nice but... is missing

PDF-exchange - I have been using this for many years in a paid version. Fast and good editing features e.g. mark-ups. https://pdf-xchange.eu/pdf-xchange-editor/index.htm

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#183

SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…

Actually SumatraPDF is using MuPDF now. But there is some limitation on rendering PDF and eBook files. For example, formatting PDF file or displaying Unicode characters in epub file.

Do you mind reporting those issues either to SumatraPDF at https://github.com/sumatrapdfreader/sumatrapdf/issues or directly to MuPDF at https://bugs.ghostscript.com/ if it also has the same issue? Thank you!

There are many wonderfully weird PDFs and epubs out there, but we do our best to fix issues. :)

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#184
Sioyek beats SumatraPDF for academic text work. Sioyek has Overview[0], Smart Jump and more features that helps academic text studies. Digital versions of page earmarks, pen highlighting and margin notes that are common in academic text usage. It feels like the main developer and contributors have personal experience of that kind of use and gear the application for it.

In contrast the SumatraPDF dev seems focused mostly on light, casual PDF viewing. Read short pdf files from start to end, add a few highlights, occasionally search.

One good feature SumatraPDF used to have, but removed, was an option to store annotations (such as colored text highlighting) in external .smx sidecar files. Similar to how VLC and other video players support sidecar .srt subtitle files.

Since a few years SumatraPDF now only writes annotations into the PDF file. That has some advantages (greater cross reader annotation compatibility, all in one file) but also disadvantages:

- Third party tools can't search or operate on the plaintext annotations. With the sidecar approach if highlighted text were to be stored as plaintext with location data in the sidecar file third party tools could use ripgrep or similar to do fast, powerful searching and filtering on highlights across a whole pdf collection.

- Annotation versioning.

- No convenient way to load different sets of annotations for a single file. Useful for academic text work where one source document may be highlighted differently for different research topics. With an API and support for third party tools toggling such sets could be instant and very user friendly. Without sidecar files the user has to keep separate copies of the pdf file and write different annotations to each.

- Modifying the source pdf can be an issue where text integrity is crucial. Many pdf documents are used as a shared source of truth and simple hashing can verify that all parties use the same unmodified document. That gets more complicated when annotations are written into the file, since different pdf applications do such writing differently.

Even though Sioyek is better for academic work I think there is a lot more to do. In some ways academic text work on a physical book still has a better UX. For example a glance at the edge of a physical book gives an overview of the earmark locations. A digital version of that would be a code editor minimap style sidebar that overview highlight and bookmark locations in the whole pdf document. The minimap could have a heatmap feature that colors (and gradually fades) locations the user recently has viewed in the pdf. As a way to mitigate getting lost when jumping between locations in a digital document.

[0] https://github.com/ahrm/sioyek#overview

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#185

SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…

META: What's the best way to convert pdfs to CSV/excel? Any new LLM tool?

abbyy finereader 8.0(!!!)

good luck finding it

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#186

I implore all developers of PDF readers to implement sioyek's overview feature[0]. When you hover on a cross-referenced entry, it opens a little preview window with the contents of the reference. It is an absolute game-changer for reading textbooks and technical papers; I cannot overstate its utility. [0] https://github.com/ahrm/sioyek#overview

Thanks for sharing!!

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#187
Thank you kjksf for such an amazing tool!

I've been using Sumatra for past 10+ years.

It is usually the first thing on my ninite.com checklist that I use when installing fresh Windows on friends and relative's computers.

PS As a bonus Sumatra works quite well on epubs.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#188

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FYI, you can use firefox for viewing,signing, and adding text to PDFs. You can also use it to remove password (just do print to PDF after unlocking it).

At least as of Firefox 109, support for non Latin languages was broken to the point of being completely unusable.

128 characters ought to be enough for everybody.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

#189

I implore all developers of PDF readers to implement sioyek's overview feature[0]. When you hover on a cross-referenced entry, it opens a little preview window with the contents of the reference. It is an absolute game-changer for reading textbooks and technical papers; I cannot overstate its utility. [0] https://github.com/ahrm/sioyek#overview

This is really cool, I'm going to steal some of these ideas for my app Kavita.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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post #166
post #94

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What the hell is Adobe doing Probably supporting 100% of the PDF spec. plus addressing all those obscure feature requests that 6 companies in this one very niche industry really really need. Sumatra is fantastic and basically the only PDF reader I use on Windows, but it does have maybe 10% of the features Adobe acrobat has. It is however the 10% that that basically everybody needs.

(I wrote SumatraPDF). I agree that Adobe has more features than SumatraPDF. Not necessarily the PDF spec itself - SumatraPDF displays pretty much any PDF you throw at it, just way more options and stuff. And it's not exactly slow. I'm sure the core rendering of PDF pages is same or faster. It's just slow to start. Like very, very, sluggish slow. And it's very visible to users. I don't think it's the features that cau…

> SumatraPDF displays pretty much any PDF you throw at it, just way more options and stuff

Sumatra includes a 3D renderer to display embedded CAD models? https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/displaying-3d-models-p...

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