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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by skrebbel »

the-dude wrote: post #114
skrebbel wrote: post #102

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Are you sure? I don’t believe that this is the case, esp for super heavy stuff like telling someone they don't have a right to a lawyer when actually they do.

Police is definitely bound to the law, like the right you are referring to. This doesn't mean everything has to be true : an example from an earlier comment of mine is lying about which evidence they actually have. edit: https://nieuws.nl/algemeen/20180203/de-politie-in-nederland-...

Thats very far removed from “you dont have a right to a lawyer” IMO

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by [deleted] »

Arch-TK wrote: post #73

>This is an enormous abuse of human rights. The abuse of process in refusing both a lawyer and the right to remain silent, the inquiry into perfectly legal campaigning which is in no way terrorism-associated, the political questioning, the financial snooping and the seizure of material related to my private life, were all based on an utterly fake claim that I am associated with terrorism. It's not explicitly stated a…

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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by hermitcrab »

kossTKR wrote: post #42
hef19898 wrote: post #32

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True, let's call it Apartheid then, not much better unfortunately. Also very important to highlight that most people living in Palestine were pretty provincial and moderate farmers before being carpet bombed by settlers which has unsurprisingly lead to extremism.

Amnesty International have referred to the Palestinian's situation as Apartheid: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-...

Does that justify Hamas atrocities? No, of course not. But desparate people do desparate things. And every bomb the Israelis drop is just creating more hate for the future. Anyway isn't the Hamas leadership mostly living in Qatar?

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by bilvar »

mardifoufs wrote: post #126
bilvar wrote: post #110

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If even Palestinians (Hamas) do not care about Palestinians and are holding them hostages or using Palestinian children as human shields, why would anybody expect from the West to?

Well I guess if Hamas doesn't care, that justifies war crimes from Israel.

No it doesn't justify war crimes from Israel. I'm just pointing out your delusion expecting anybody to care when they don't even care about themselves. You have to love yourself first, in order to be loved.

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by niemandhier »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #59
diggan wrote: post #3

Some context: > Craig John Murray is a Scottish author, human rights campaigner, journalist, and former diplomat [...] he became a political activist, campaigning for human rights and for transparency in global politics as well as for the independence of Scotland [...] Murray was one of few people granted access to Julian Assange's extradition hearing which started in the Old Bailey on 7 September 2020. He published…

The UK is very worried about Scottish Independence. Mr Murray is a very vocal supporter of that, and an active figurehead in the independence movement. I don't know, but I'm assuming that his support of Hamas is a nice pretext for the British Establishment to have another pop at him. As we predicted when the UK proposed these monstrous laws: they are being abused to go after anyone who annoys the establishment. That'…

Can you give an example of him supporting hammas?

I could not find any.

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by xdennis »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #59
diggan wrote: post #3

Some context: > Craig John Murray is a Scottish author, human rights campaigner, journalist, and former diplomat [...] he became a political activist, campaigning for human rights and for transparency in global politics as well as for the independence of Scotland [...] Murray was one of few people granted access to Julian Assange's extradition hearing which started in the Old Bailey on 7 September 2020. He published…

The UK is very worried about Scottish Independence. Mr Murray is a very vocal supporter of that, and an active figurehead in the independence movement. I don't know, but I'm assuming that his support of Hamas is a nice pretext for the British Establishment to have another pop at him. As we predicted when the UK proposed these monstrous laws: they are being abused to go after anyone who annoys the establishment. That'…

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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by Condition1952 »

ImaCake wrote: post #98
octopoc wrote: post #90

Israel is an ethnostate[1], resolutions of Congress notwithstanding[2]. Imagine if Biden said "The US is a Nation-State Of The White People And Them Alone" the way a leading Israeli spoke about Israel[3]. But instead all major western governments are busy sucking up to Israel (this article is just one example) and declaring that Israel will always be our best ally. [1] https://www.npr.org/2018/07/19/630368973/israel-…

Lots of states are ethnostates to varying degrees. Japan and South Korea are arguably much more restrictive about who is considered a member than Israel. But there are many more; Finland, Iran, and Hungary come to mind. The New World has few ethnostates, but in Eurasia they are more the norm than the exception.

and none of those were funded by Britain in 1948 on foreign soil

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by hef19898 »

hermitcrab wrote: post #133
kossTKR wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, let's call it Apartheid then, not much better unfortunately. Also very important to highlight that most people living in Palestine were pretty provincial and moderate farmers before being carpet bombed by settlers which has unsurprisingly lead to extremism.

Amnesty International have referred to the Palestinian's situation as Apartheid: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-... Does that justify Hamas atrocities? No, of course not. But desparate people do desparate things. And every bomb the Israelis drop is just creating more hate for the future. Anyway isn't the Hamas leadership mostly living in Qatar?

Of course leadership isn't living in the line of fire. They are not stupid, they don't blow up the place they live in. Or risk their own lives, now that they are leadership. Some things just never, ever change it seems.

Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by logicchains »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #108
kossTKR wrote: post #83

As a sidenote has anyone else been surprised by the extreme political iron-fist and omnipresent media control to side with Israel? When talking to colleagues, family, and even my Israeli friends there's a plurality of opinion, sadness, serious discussions, but when looking at mainstream media, even relatively moderate it seems like everyone and their grandma is screaming for bombs and are "tired of the stupid poor pa…

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Re: I face investigation for terrorism

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Post by mardifoufs »

bilvar wrote: post #134
mardifoufs wrote: post #126

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Well I guess if Hamas doesn't care, that justifies war crimes from Israel.

No it doesn't justify war crimes from Israel. I'm just pointing out your delusion expecting anybody to care when they don't even care about themselves. You have to love yourself first, in order to be loved.

What? What are you even talking about? I'm not saying anything about loving them, there's an insanely wide margin between loving them and not turning a blind eye on war crimes because it's your ally that is doing it. What the hell?
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