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Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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it won't help, when given a github profile most people will go read your actual commits we do not give a darn about stars

Given a github profile, most people (not developers), will not read commits. Hell, I'm not convinced most developers would either.

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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I had a friend working with a well known startup founder. The founder was interested in me from what my friend told him, all he wanted to see was my github profile. All of my github projects are private. That was the end of that, even after he already knew that my experience was perfect for their company. So ya, some people definitely put too much emphasis on the github profile.

this is a perfectly reasonable decision when hiring for a startup, why waste hours, that you don't have, on interviews testing the candidate when you can lookup their past work

Considering how important networking is to startup businesses, you'd think a startup founder would put a little more weight on an employee referral than only considering their GitHub profile.

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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I agree GitHub is not popular because of its minimal and pointless social features. It became popular because Git is good and they nailed the cloud part of source control. However, social was definitely there as part of the original pitch. The tagline was "social coding" for a long time. But also if you're buying GitHub stars or worrying about people's contribution squares, you're probably not doing great work.

> I agree GitHub is not popular because of its minimal and pointless social features. I'm not sure I agree. I believe that having a profile for open source work, tracking issues, comments, tagging people in comments, assigning tasks, etc, are all core to GitHub's popularity. Now with issue and comment upvotes, following users, etc, it's even better. A couple of years ago I went through a phase where I was convinced t…

A GitLab profile might get you hired over a github profile. A gitlab profile shows you are part of a smaller select group. It could be the difference.

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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Is this really a thing or just some local phenomena? I can't remember that the github profile played a role in any hiring committee i've been part of (western europe) as people understood that most of the experienced software developers aren't active open source contributors.

Don't know, but you can definitely find GitHub profiles built on reattributing other people's PRs to OSS projects, and they end up working for Google.

Any examples? How do you reattribute other peoples’ PRs?

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

#65
Related. Others?

I went down the rabbit hole of buying GitHub Stars, so you won't have to - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36151140 - June 2023 (178 comments)

Tracking the Fake GitHub Star Black Market - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35207020 - March 2023 (284 comments)

Ask HN: Has GitHub stars become a gamed metric? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33225477 - Oct 2022 (19 comments)

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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post #58

Most of the comments here seem to assume buying stars is about making personal profiles more attractive to hiring. I doubt that's the motivation here. I think this is about projects themselves wanting a high star count in order to attract users, customers and investors.

It probably is both, to be honest.

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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I beg to differ on the concept that github became popular because it integrated social media features. I would assert that github became popular because it offered free online git repo hosting. The social media stuff was only long after the fact, and accelerated under M$ ownership. An old adage was: Every s/w evolves until it becomes an email client The modern version is: Every s/w evolves until it becomes facebook..…

We decided to use github because:

1. lots of other people used it

2. it provided auditable provenance for all contributions to dlang

3. I got tired of people copying my code and then claiming I stole it from them. Github ended all that

4. it provides a great distributed backup

5. nobody complained about it :-/

6. Dlang is in the D business, not the repository business. Best to not invent our own.

7. it provides everything we need

8. I didn't think git or github was going to go dark on us

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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I beg to differ on the concept that github became popular because it integrated social media features. I would assert that github became popular because it offered free online git repo hosting. The social media stuff was only long after the fact, and accelerated under M$ ownership. An old adage was: Every s/w evolves until it becomes an email client The modern version is: Every s/w evolves until it becomes facebook..…

Github became popular because it was SourceForge without all the bullshit.

Yep, this was exactly how I got into it at first. Didn't even really notice the social features for years and even now I'm only aware of the social features and don't actually engage with them.

Re: The black market in GitHub stars

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a friend working with a well known startup founder. The founder was interested in me from what my friend told him, all he wanted to see was my github profile. All of my github projects are private. That was the end of that, even after he already knew that my experience was perfect for their company. So ya, some people definitely put too much emphasis on the github profile.

this is a perfectly reasonable decision when hiring for a startup, why waste hours, that you don't have, on interviews testing the candidate when you can lookup their past work

Almost 100% of my work (in midsize to big tech) is confidential. I cannot go sharing my work due to 10,000 confidentiality agreements.

I can share my random side projects... but what is the use of that? They aren't that impressive compared to my actual work.

My fear is that I will have to put lots of advertising into myself for things that don't describe what I actually do.

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