This will be perfect for my Plex server.
Why do you need so much compute in your Plex server? Wouldn't a cheap GPU be better for transcoding tasks?
Woosh.
First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
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Re: First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
#102Re: First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'd guess this wins in absolute performance No need to guess: An M2 Ultra will get around 27,000 in Cinebench R23 while this Threadripper will get around 100,000. The M2 Ultra has a TDP around 90 watts (~ish according to a couple reviews) and this Threadripper has a TDP of 350 watts.
If you underclock the Threadripper to get a score of ~27k, then how much power will it use? I wouldn't be surprised if it was roughly equal to 90W, or even lower. The stock configurations for a lot of desktop chips is to get the maximum performance at the expense of power, especially for things like these Threadripper series which are explicitly aimed at maximum performance. Often even drastically reducing power usag…
Yeah I am definitely not a fan of Intel/AMD/and even Nvidia who will completely push power to stupid levels just to get less than an extra 10% performance
Gamers Nexus did a video earlier this year comparing the 7950x at different eco modes and they found that putting the 7950x at a 105 watt eco made drop the performance around 5% but shaved almost 100 watts off of power. heres the link to the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6aKQ-eBFk0
I know why these companies do it and im lucky electricity isnt too expensive in my area but i rather shave 100 + watts of heat being dumped into my room (especially in the summer months)
Re: First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
#104Playing around with 96x avx512 sounds fun
Pardon my ignorance, I hear about "fun with avx512" so often yet still have 0 intuition about why its fun? What do people do with that instruction that's so different to all the other stuff?
Re: First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
#105IMHO, increasingly inefficient software notwithstanding, CPU performance has been well beyond acceptable since a long time ago. Thus, the real question is how buggy these new CPUs will be. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37812556
>CPU performance has been well beyond acceptable since a long time ago.
Our antenna design folks sends simulation runs to a group of R7525s with 2x EPYC 75F3 CPUs and 2x A100 80GB GPUs.
A small problem might have tens of millions of elements and billions of unknowns to solve and run on one server. Larger problems might be spread across all of the servers, after coordination with everyone else.
Simulations take 8-12 hours to run.
This is not acceptable.
Anything slower than "an amount of time imperceptible to even the most responsive human" is unacceptable.
Everything is too slow.
Networks are too slow, memory is too slow, storage is too slow, GPUs are too slow, and CPUs are definitely too slow.
Re: First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're testing CPU performance, not memory capacity. They need that much for the channels.
If the benchmark has any cache misses at all then you also want to make sure everything about the memory configuration is the same, too, for a fair CPU benchmark, right? Number of channels, latency, etc. No, the actual amount of RAM isn't directly relevant, but it seems like a possible brown m&m to me. ( https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/ )
> If the benchmark has any cache misses at all then you also want to make sure everything about the memory configuration is the same, too, for a fair CPU benchmark, right? Number of channels, latency, etc.
No. Adding that memory bottleneck would make it an unfair and worthless comparison. If you are testing the maximum CPU performance then you need to eliminate those bottlenecks, not create them.
Re: First 96-Core AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Tests Show Utter Domination over Intel
#107What use cases is this CPU ideal for? It's not a GPU, so gaming, ML model training, and crypto mining are out.
Developers will love it. With limited resources nobody tests their code for compatibility: good testing requires an order of magnitude more cores. Test against multiple competing libraries? Compiled with multiple competitive alternative dependencies? Maybe it is also important to test dependencies with various flags? Maybe test in multiple Linux distributions? And then cross-product multiply all possible combinations and get the best result.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, no - their thing for the past few years has been to build out the most comprehensive test bench across all PC hardware components. "LTT Labs." They are aiming to become the authority on hardware performance and reliability, and have invested heavily in the tools and industry experts required to do that. Linus doesn't do any testing himself; he is just bankrolling it with the proceeds from his main channel a…
I don't know when/if that change you talk about happened, as I banned LTT from my feeds years ago for their (subjectively) annoying style of presentation, but latest drama isn't even year old and highlighted so many technical issues with LTT I have no intention of trying them again: [0]: The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc
Fair enough. I have a few gripes with the channel, particularly how they title videos and the thumbnails are usually cheesy. The content can be hit or miss, but the smart house series is especially relevant to me as I'm going through something similar a smaller scale.
The thing that I find so interesting is that they - for better or worse - essentially live stream their business decisions, challenges, and aspirations. Whether their endeavors are successful or not, I agree with their decision to try and move beyond Youtube and create their own video platform via Floatplane. They've also found success in alternative revenue streams via sponsorships from reputable brands and merchandising and are very open about their metrics.
Lastly, I really respect that they are 100% bootstrapped. I've only ever worked for companies that rely on investor funding for growth, and their influence often feels intrusive and counterproductive.