Note that people requesting information collected on themselves was enabled by the GDPR's information-related-to-me provisions, as retained after Brexit. I look forward to the Conservatives dismantling it after realizing that it's used against them.
UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ignoring using the Guardian as a source for now..... If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?
> If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause? We do not expect our employers to start files on us. We do not expect them to do it when they are desperately short of cash and morale is low We expect them to acknowledge there are problems (there are) and show some humility
>We do not expect
I seem to have discovered the problem. Expect the worst, be surprised when it doesn't happen.
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#23Remember this is “keeping files on posts that criticise education policies” — tracking political dissenters who don’t like the government’s policies but have done nothing wrong or illegal. While we’re off focusing on encryption debates and the online safety bill, the UK government isn’t waiting around. Just what is “accredited technology”? As defined in that bill, and how much does encryption play a role when monitor…
Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'
Everyone across the spectrum does it. It's a way of reinforcing the power of a particular political camp. There's a way to fix that though, make it very difficult to fire people. Then companies will need to be incredibly clear about what conditions they're choosing to terminate under.
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#24Remember this is “keeping files on posts that criticise education policies” — tracking political dissenters who don’t like the government’s policies but have done nothing wrong or illegal. While we’re off focusing on encryption debates and the online safety bill, the UK government isn’t waiting around. Just what is “accredited technology”? As defined in that bill, and how much does encryption play a role when monitor…
Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'
This is the government doing it, which is clearly wrong because they are supposed to be protecting your speech rights.
If someone robs a corner gas station, you think “dang that’s a shame”.
If the military robs a gas station, you think “umm wtf?”
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ignoring using the Guardian as a source for now..... If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?
You must be rather dense. Flatly disregard a provided source that counters your claim of "conspiracy theories" and then compare something like this to employers responding to employee criticisms. The two things are categorically different. The state spying on and punishing private citizens (even if they're government employees) for their criticisms of its policies is far ahead in danger from corporate employee monito…
When did i claim "conspiracy theories" ?
Sorry i stopped reading after that because i think you've responded to the wrong person.
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#27Wrongthink must be stamped out! Seriously, what kind of dystopia are UK politicians trying to create? Also, that's a lot of tax money that could, I dunno, be used to improve the schools?
Simple FOI request to find out how much the program is costing. I doubt it’s cheap.
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You need to read the article before you comment. They include the source material: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/21/uk-governme... What evidence are you using to tar and feather the guardian with your false conspiracy theories?
I believe the point is that even suggesting that a western government is surveilling its dissenting citizens would get you labeled a conspiracy theorist nutjob. And with this revelation, we are now supposed to believe that this was the only instance of this happening, it's definitely not happening anywhere else, and you're still just a dangerous conspiracy theorist if you have trouble believing these institutions that lie over and over and over again about things like this until they get caught and aren't held accountable. It's tiring.
It's a low effort comment for sure. But it's pretty spot on if you have ever expressed doubt in the mainstream narrative online.
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#29Animal Farm taught us that the educators of the next generation wield some of the greatest power in society; It is possibly a bit naive not to expect some level of automated surveillance directed towards them.
A social media movement sweeping though the education system could potentially be just as destructive to society as an economic cold war or a poor foreign policy.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'
Everyone across the spectrum does it. It's a way of reinforcing the power of a particular political camp. There's a way to fix that though, make it very difficult to fire people. Then companies will need to be incredibly clear about what conditions they're choosing to terminate under.
>make every state a right to work state instead of at will
In the US, "right-to-work state" likely refers to the opposite of what you mean. It's "right to not join a union and not pay dues".