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> Woman wins 12-year legal battle against Google > But how can you notify Google of anything? Clearly with a lawsuit. Per the other article in this thread [1], Google did nothing when she notified them but de-indexed the webpage following her initial lawsuit. [1]: https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/duffy-v...
That's the most expensive way. Wonder why should it be that way?
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That’s my take too. It’s pretty ludicrous
So as is often the case the details are what matter. Google failed to remove defamatory content from their systems after being informed it was defamatory. That’s the case, and they lost because it’s their responsibility to respect such notifications. It’s like that hot coffee lawsuit. They were held 80% liable because the coffee was served at a seriously unsafe temperature, which isn’t total liability. She got 3rd de…
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> Woman wins 12-year legal battle against Google > But how can you notify Google of anything? Clearly with a lawsuit. Per the other article in this thread [1], Google did nothing when she notified them but de-indexed the webpage following her initial lawsuit. [1]: https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/duffy-v...
That's the most expensive way. Wonder why should it be that way?
What else would motivate them to do something? Externalities that harm others are just gravy for business until it threatens their profit. Awful externalities can even be a sign of competitive edge if they manage to avoid them bring priced in - social responsibility is anti growth.
Read another way, > Woman loses 12 years of her life to a legal battle against Google
nah she won and did a great service to her fellow human beings. this was not lost or wasted time. people spend decades on far more "useless" things - not that there is anything wrong with that
She didn't win, they settled out of court. The article definitely does its best to avoid mentioning even a single detail about the case beyond the outcome, and even that it misconstrues.
Dr. Duffy left a bad review for some psychics on the site "RipOff Report" and lied about her friend’s wife committing suicide due to bad advice given by the psychics. A few unsavory posts based on her behaviour ended up being published there as well. The big crime that Google committed was providing the most common autocompletes on search terms like it does for every other search query. In this case, it showed the search term “janice duffy psychic stalker” after typing in "janice duffy".
I don't see how any of this insane story counts as a "great service to her fellow human beings".
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> stokes up violence What now?
From https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/jul/10/uber-files-leak... Amid taxi strikes and riots in Paris, Kalanick ordered French executives to retaliate by encouraging Uber drivers to stage a counter-protest with mass civil disobedience. Warned that doing so risked putting Uber drivers at risk of attacks from “extreme right thugs” who had infiltrated the taxi protests and were “spoiling for a fight”, Kalanick appea…
But it's clearly Uber's fault. They were asking for it. /s
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It's not so much "be careful with your UI" as "when you're actually notified that your UI is treading on somebody, you better stop (treading on that particular person)".
But how can you notify Google of anything? Even when you report an important bug, bots and "product experts" just shrug it off. The only "notification" for Google is a lawsuit it seems.
Some basic information about court procedure and submissions, and a guide to the relevant law, such as defamation, would let a thousand litigants bloom, and Google would soon have a very real problem on their hands.
Most likely you'd get Google's attention at the first step, and a probably solution.
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Afaik a settlement against a company like google is essentially win for a couple reasons -- if Google could win on merit, they can afford to do so; but if they were going to lose, the cost of completing the trial would be even higher than a settlement. Particularly, if she got the redactions and compensation she was looking for, thats certainly a win.
She's quoted as saying it's not about the money, just holding Google accountable. A settlement is money in lieu of accountability. A judgement would deter them from doing it to countless others.
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It's not so much "be careful with your UI" as "when you're actually notified that your UI is treading on somebody, you better stop (treading on that particular person)".
But how can you notify Google of anything? Even when you report an important bug, bots and "product experts" just shrug it off. The only "notification" for Google is a lawsuit it seems.
Even after you use their delisting the customer care duty-fully informs you that your number can still be named and tagged on their platform.
After a while in my case they just didn’t respond.
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The woman made up shit about some psychics (after finding out the hard way that there is no such thing as a psychic) and then got mad again when she was served some of that same medicine. Sounds more like someone that wanted to avoid the consequences of her own choices rather than a courageous fighter standing up to the big evil corporation.
I wasn't commenting on any of these points, I specifically said "I can't speak to the merits or substance of the case". I certainly didn't say anything about going up against an "evil corporation". I'm trying to reference the humanity aspects of the situation, which I've found time and time again seems to be completely lost on HN (see: downvotes). It's called empathy.
I suppose it's just hard for many to feel empathy for someone who would go to such great lengths to avoid the consequences of their own actions. The timeline of events is just insane: Dr. Duffy consults with psychics about a romantic partner, gets upset when the psychics don't guess the true outcome, proceeds to lie about her friend's wife committing suicide due to the psychics, has a few posts about her stalking these psychics published on some no-name website, then spends 12 years getting upset at Google for indexing that website and autocompleting search terms instead of getting upset with the authors of the defamatory posts?
Empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of another, but it's hard for most people to see that chain of events and understand them.