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Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by bergen »

Kon5ole wrote: post #85
analognoise wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Billionaires shouldn't exist; to continue the crab metaphor, they're already outside the pot and it's disingenuous to suggest that we're trying to pull others down by removing the flaws that allow such extreme accumulations of wealth - that's the kind of divisive talk they're all for. Don't carry water for them.

>Billionaires shouldn't exist; People want to own things even if they are not billionaires, and they want to value things freely even if they are not billionaires. Those two things combined make billionaires unavoidable if you think about it. I think what you really desire is that billionaires should not be able to corrupt society or exploit the environment to the detriment of others. Which I am fully behind and cons…

>Those two things combined make billionaires unavoidable if you think about it.

What service, commodity, or neccessity one owns, one pays a billion for? Considering production is worker owned, there would be no necessity for billionaires. This is basically a statement on the concentration of wealth, and that theoretically no one should have 20 Billion more "moneys" then any other person, with the linked fact that this person has 20 billion more influence in politics and getting their voice heard than a person with only one dollar on them. Because the fact that money buys influence is also "unavoidable" if you think about it. If I can feed 10.000 people daily and make them rely on me, they are much more likely to do my bidding and listen to me.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by caskstrength »

bratbag wrote: post #82
caskstrength wrote: post #78

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But once they pay $$$ and turn on the uploaded consciousness won't they be like "Hey, why I'm still here in my meat body and not in Amazon Brain Cloud(c)"?

Daily backup with a final scan after death, if possible. Then your mind is booted into a simulation from your memories, instead of being booted into your pillow from your memories. Functionally not much different to waking up after loosing some time from being blackout drunk.

I thought the the fact that your mind is not magically booted into simulation while you are still alive (during sleep, backout while drunk or just pressing the power button on the server running it) should be a clue that you won't suddenly wake up in simulation after you have died.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by vbezhenar »

falcor84 wrote: post #30
Version467 wrote: post #25

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I've never understood this. Even if we would have perfect mind-uploading capabilities, this doesn't help the billionaire who is afraid of death, right? It'd just be a copy of them. An immortal one, sure, but the original person would die just the same, no?

There's the philosophical argument that we have no continuity of consciousness in our meatbag bodies either - e.g. when you wake up, it's rebooting your consciousness from suspended memories.

There's physical continuity. You can be sure that most of your neurones will be the same tomorrow.

So to solve immortality, you gotta replace meat cells with silicone ones, slowly, one percent after another. It'll maintain relative continuity and hopefully will transfer memories and other person traits to the silicone, so one day the brain will be immortal and repairable.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by arethuza »

caskstrength wrote: post #78
falcor84 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's the philosophical argument that we have no continuity of consciousness in our meatbag bodies either - e.g. when you wake up, it's rebooting your consciousness from suspended memories.

But once they pay $$$ and turn on the uploaded consciousness won't they be like "Hey, why I'm still here in my meat body and not in Amazon Brain Cloud(c)"?

Just don't make the mistake of going for the "Unlimited" option in ABC...

Edit: I wonder if cloud brain emulators would censor inappropriate thoughts?

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by mptest »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #42
sparrowInHand wrote: post #3

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To be honest, i thought it would first go the other way around. To many billionaires afraid of death, trying to encode there mindstate-personality into a machine and become semi-imortal.

Ah, the billionaires . Boogeymen of our times. The scourge of all us crabs living here in this fine bucket.

9 people own more wealth than 3.6 BILLION combined.

Do you think that is a sensible allocation of ANY resource??? Don't suck off a boot just to be a contrarian.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by compressedgas »

jojobas wrote: post #67
Jean-Papoulos wrote: post #60

Ah, sweet. Man-made horrors beyond my comprehension. Hopefully this will lead to brain implants that can help with solving a bunch of brain issues, and not to what we're all thinking of.

May I ask if you have a mouth, and/or a commitment to screaming?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTffic7uq6Y

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by junke »

caskstrength wrote: post #78
falcor84 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's the philosophical argument that we have no continuity of consciousness in our meatbag bodies either - e.g. when you wake up, it's rebooting your consciousness from suspended memories.

But once they pay $$$ and turn on the uploaded consciousness won't they be like "Hey, why I'm still here in my meat body and not in Amazon Brain Cloud(c)"?

gunshot sound

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Post by andrepd »

trulyhnh wrote: post #2

Never thought the day that brain in a vat is no longer a philosophical question but a practical one would come so soon.

"Neural networks" as in chatgpt and friends have almost nothing to do with "neural networks" as understood in biology, more than a passing analogy to how synapses fire. I'm very skeptical of projects which seek to conflate the two in some vague way.
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