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Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by askonomm »

ghaff wrote: post #27
askonomm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like mentioned in another reply here, Germany is quite outdated when it comes to these things, and I wouldn't consider Germany a modern country (by northern European standards).

I was just in Spain and mostly just used a card but, anecdotally, it looked like the norm was paying for meals/drinks with cash. There's a lot of variation in Europe.

Oddly it seems to me the further south you go, the less modern things get. Is there some correlation with the climate or something?

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by infotainment »

For those who don't know, the US requires every foreign visitor to get approved for entry via ESTA, which is basically a visa in every conceivable way except that they don't call it one. It's also essentially identical to ETIAS, the system mentioned in this article.

IMO, ESTA is and has always been always a blatant violation of the Visa Wavier treaty, so it's not unreasonable for Europe to respond in kind.

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by [deleted] »

RandomLensman wrote: post #28
askonomm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like mentioned in another reply here, Germany is quite outdated when it comes to these things, and I wouldn't consider Germany a modern country (by northern European standards).

There is just no desire in Germany to go there. That said, why is Estonia still a net EU receiver of funds then?

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Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by ricardobayes »

patrickk wrote: post #11
askonomm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People still use cash in the modern world? I haven't needed it in years. Don't know anybody else either (Estonia).

A huge percentage of daily life in Germany (Europe's biggest economy) and Austria is conducted in cash. https://www.bundesbank.de/en/press/press-releases/payment-be...

If you want a counterpart, in Sweden almost no one uses cash and apart from hospitals almost no one is obligated to accept it.

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by RandomLensman »

askonomm wrote: post #31
ghaff wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just in Spain and mostly just used a card but, anecdotally, it looked like the norm was paying for meals/drinks with cash. There's a lot of variation in Europe.

Oddly it seems to me the further south you go, the less modern things get. Is there some correlation with the climate or something?

No. Partially, modernity was paid for by other countries and less legacy (some new EU members), the classic Nordics are all high tax and small - so consensus is easy. In large countries the cost of changing things and supporting laggards is also much higher (and a few % opposition is a lot of people in Germany or Italy, for example)

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by gizajob »

cyberpunk wrote: post #8

> The rules of travel to Europe have changed. Starting in mid-2025, some 1.4 billion people from over 60 visa-exempt countries are required to have a travel authorization to enter most European countries. I don't remember voting for this....

I assume you're in Europe. Voting and democracy aren't it's strong point. Did you vote for Ursula Von Der Leyden as your president?

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by diggan »

cyberpunk wrote: post #8

> The rules of travel to Europe have changed. Starting in mid-2025, some 1.4 billion people from over 60 visa-exempt countries are required to have a travel authorization to enter most European countries. I don't remember voting for this....

If you didn't vote in your country's election, then yeah, you probably didn't vote for it. But otherwise, you did. It's just that Europe operates under representative democracy rather than direct democracy.

Re: New Requirements to Travel to Europe

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Post by orwin »

cyberpunk wrote: post #8

> The rules of travel to Europe have changed. Starting in mid-2025, some 1.4 billion people from over 60 visa-exempt countries are required to have a travel authorization to enter most European countries. I don't remember voting for this....

It's literally immigration control, which is what the new version of the PPE stand for (it moved quite a bit right on this particular issue), and what a lot of european country voted for.
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