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Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Very "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" for me.

Darkness, imprisoning me All that I see, absolute horror I cannot live, I cannot die Trapped in myself, body my holding cell Landmine, has taken my sight Taken my speech, taken my hearing Taken my arms, taken my legs Taken my soul, left me with life in Hell

It’s all it’s known, all it ever has… a higher being may feel the same sadness about us mere humans.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Beautiful website. They massively over-claim on their science though. Their 'tech' is nothing special, people have been culturing and recording from neurons for years. And their claims of 'sentient' neurons in a dish should be taken as being somewhat flexible with the meaning of the word.

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Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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If the goal is to mimic the human brain, how is this different than just...starting with a human brain? Either way, you will be subjugating a possibly conscious mind into servitude. I am sure they are "happy" (however you want to measure it) about it either way lol

> you will be subjugating a possibly conscious mind into servitude.

Is the distinction between a protein-and-salt-water model versus an electronic-gates-and-memory model meaningful? From a computational standpoint, they both manipulate states and store data. Does substrate matter unless we're invoking metaphysical claims?

Regarding the video (https://twitter.com/Scobleizer/status/1716312250422796590), the device seems untypically polished but also a bit sus. Even if it contains living neurons, their functionality appears limited to mere survival rather than meaningful data processing. The claim that it's/can-be "more efficient than a GPU" (even if in the future) is premature at this point IMO.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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If the goal is to mimic the human brain, how is this different than just...starting with a human brain? Either way, you will be subjugating a possibly conscious mind into servitude. I am sure they are "happy" (however you want to measure it) about it either way lol

Trying to get this kind of accuracy and bandwidth for signal measurements you'd have to risk killing the human or at least severely cripple them. Look at how outraged people here regularly get over Neuralink's tiny chip that would only insert an inch or so of electrode threads into the brain. Now imagine they were sticking stuff in there that penetrates the entire brain. It's much easier publicity wise to just do that with a bunch of neurons on a board.

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Our biOS composes their reality, sending information about it via electrical signals. It then converts the neuron's activity into actions inside that reality. Their world is mediated through our biOS.

The simulation argument asserts that "at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation."

(1) is still possible - humankind is armed to the teeth, this tech could be a bunch of hot air, the breakthrough is still N years away, etc.

(2) becomes less likely with every headline. If we had the ability today to simulate a consciousness-filled universe thousands of instances would be spun up overnight.

(3) is looking more plausible than ever...

https://simulation-argument.com/

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Our biOS composes their reality, sending information about it via electrical signals. It then converts the neuron's activity into actions inside that reality. Their world is mediated through our biOS. The simulation argument asserts that "at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extreme…

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Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Darkness, imprisoning me All that I see, absolute horror I cannot live, I cannot die Trapped in myself, body my holding cell Landmine, has taken my sight Taken my speech, taken my hearing Taken my arms, taken my legs Taken my soul, left me with life in Hell

It’s all it’s known, all it ever has… a higher being may feel the same sadness about us mere humans.

A pig, in a cage, on antibiotics

Re: Cortical Labs: "Human neural networks raised in a simulation"

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Beautiful website. They massively over-claim on their science though. Their 'tech' is nothing special, people have been culturing and recording from neurons for years. And their claims of 'sentient' neurons in a dish should be taken as being somewhat flexible with the meaning of the word.

When I see something so over-engineered on the aesthetics front, my knee jerk reaction is to think "this is overcompensating, and i guess they don't really have what they promise"
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