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Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by ekianjo »

talmand wrote: post #9
StavrosK wrote: post #4

> The LAST time I checked, this was still America. As a foreigner, when I read this, I think "so why are you surprised?" Nationalism really irks me.

I don't understand, are you saying he shouldn't be surprised such things happen in the US? If so, I would agree since things like that happen all the time. What's wrong with nationalism exactly? Since, like most things, there are various degrees of nationalism do you dislike every example of it? If I like the country I live in but disagree with some of its policies, am I still an irksome person in your eyes?

nationalism : (a definition I picked): "a sentiment based on common cultural characteristics that binds a population and often produces a policy of national independence or separatism."

In other words, Nationalism is a big myth. There are no common characteristics (or then, VERY few) that everyone shares in one country, let alone in a single village. This is an idea created by politicians to turn one country's people against others. Liking the country you live in does not equal to nationalism, God forbid.

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by Tichy »

Could employers ask me for my password by default? I mean would it be legal reason to fire me if I not give it to them? Coming from Germany, I am not sure, here apparently it is not so easy to fire somebody, but in the US it might be so easy that it doesn't matter. That is, they don't have to give a reason, which means not getting a password could be a reason?

Otherwise I wonder if in the future it will be one more thing to watch out for in contracts.

Another aspect: if an employer would be willing to fire you over such a thing, your profession is probably not in very high demand and you should consider switching.

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by CWuestefeld »

As far as I can see, this is just a lot of political posturing. Such a law would have little impact, because the feared scenario is already against the rule. It violates the Facebook T&C for both the account owner to share the password, and for the prospective employer to use it. And surely it's already illegal for an employer to require a candidate employee to violate such an agreement as a condition of employment.

Just because something needs to be done does not mean that we need to have the government do it.

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by kstenerud »

"Don’t get me wrong. I’m not going to go on some freakin’ tirade here about first or fourth amendment rights. "

...

"The LAST time I checked, this was still America. The last time I checked, I was afforded the right to speak my mind (First Amendment). The last time I checked, I was protected from unlawful search and seizure or demands on my privacy (Fourth Amendment)."

Umm...

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

#15

Post by talmand »

ekianjo wrote: post #11
talmand wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand, are you saying he shouldn't be surprised such things happen in the US? If so, I would agree since things like that happen all the time. What's wrong with nationalism exactly? Since, like most things, there are various degrees of nationalism do you dislike every example of it? If I like the country I live in but disagree with some of its policies, am I still an irksome person in your eyes?

nationalism : (a definition I picked): "a sentiment based on common cultural characteristics that binds a population and often produces a policy of national independence or separatism." In other words, Nationalism is a big myth. There are no common characteristics (or then, VERY few) that everyone shares in one country, let alone in a single village. This is an idea created by politicians to turn one country's people…

What was I downvoted for? I had a legitimate question.

Anyway.

I see what you're saying now and I would have to tend to agree if that is your definition.

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by readme »

signalsignal wrote: post #5

No, your Facebook account belongs to Facebook. The content you post belongs to you with distribution rights granted to Facebook. Additionally free speech is protected from the government's interference, nothing is in the Constitution about protection from private enterprises.

I came here just for this comment.

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by signalsignal »

readme wrote: post #17
signalsignal wrote: post #5

No, your Facebook account belongs to Facebook. The content you post belongs to you with distribution rights granted to Facebook. Additionally free speech is protected from the government's interference, nothing is in the Constitution about protection from private enterprises.

I came here just for this comment.

Thanks for the validation. I don't know if it is the blog-spam that infests all of these types of forums, or if it that people really think a for-profit corporation owes them free stuff in perpetuity. PR people, though, call me "cynical" ;)

Re: My Facebook Account is Mine, not Yours

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Post by StavrosK »

talmand wrote: post #9
StavrosK wrote: post #4

> The LAST time I checked, this was still America. As a foreigner, when I read this, I think "so why are you surprised?" Nationalism really irks me.

I don't understand, are you saying he shouldn't be surprised such things happen in the US? If so, I would agree since things like that happen all the time. What's wrong with nationalism exactly? Since, like most things, there are various degrees of nationalism do you dislike every example of it? If I like the country I live in but disagree with some of its policies, am I still an irksome person in your eyes?

I'm saying that something like that is par for the course in the modern US, and nothing that would surprise me.

My definition of nationalism is "excessive patriotism", or maybe "exceptionalism". It generally irks me when I hear americans say "this is America", because nobody I know says "this is Greece" or "this is England" as if they're the only free (to whatever degree) countries.

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