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Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

I've got a Dell Vostro V5510 (i7, 32GB RAM) that's been rock-solid running Ubuntu and only cost ~ $1000.

Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

Lenovo laptops tend to be best bang for buck but ime poor build quality and support. I've sent each of the three I've owned in for warranty repair at some point. It took at least a month for all of them and two of them still died a month or two later from repair-related issues (eg glue around new lcd housing was too weak and it eventually warped / cracked).

Lenovo's consumer products suck but the high end stuff is reasonably solid.

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Why does it cost more if I select Ubuntu versus windows? Edit: It looks like just a Canadian thing. 1899 for windows home and 1984 for Ubuntu. https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/laptops/xps-13-plus/spd/xps-...

For me, it's the opposite: Windows is preselected, but when I switch to Linux, the price goes down.

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> The Dell XPS 13 is the best-known developer-focused, high-end Linux laptop. Not a good ol' ThinkPad T-series?

Have fixed multiple hundreds of laptops over about a decade across hundreds of clients. I've literally seen one ThinkPad the whole time. It had some weird ass 1.8 inch storage drive down one of the side rails of the chassis which is why I remembered it. The machine was wack af from a repair techs pov.

Makes me feel like they aren't that popular outside of IT departments.

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> The Dell XPS 13 is the best-known developer-focused, high-end Linux laptop. Not a good ol' ThinkPad T-series?

I guess not anymore. I'd say that until a bunch of years ago, you'd be right. Nowadays, I don't see Thinkpads often anymore. My 0.02.

I see them everywhere.

On the last 4 companies I worked straight, they were either the only option, or an option between ThinkPad or Mac.

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Why does it cost more if I select Ubuntu versus windows? Edit: It looks like just a Canadian thing. 1899 for windows home and 1984 for Ubuntu. https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/laptops/xps-13-plus/spd/xps-...

When I configured a base model (in the US) it was $1,399 for Ubuntu, $1,499 for Win 11.

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> The Dell XPS 13 is the best-known developer-focused, high-end Linux laptop. Not a good ol' ThinkPad T-series?

Have fixed multiple hundreds of laptops over about a decade across hundreds of clients. I've literally seen one ThinkPad the whole time. It had some weird ass 1.8 inch storage drive down one of the side rails of the chassis which is why I remembered it. The machine was wack af from a repair techs pov. Makes me feel like they aren't that popular outside of IT departments.

Because they don't break as much?

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3 days ago my system76 oryx pro 4k 2023 just died dead.

i had 2022 dell xps with 17 4k touch screen. i thought, okey, will plug encrypted nvme system disk. i was doubt it will boot at all, not speaking about sound, wifi and touch.

but magically, after reboot, some firmwares installed. it all worked perfectly. sound, voice, touch, sleep, keyboard, camera.

Re: Ubuntu Linux snuck into high-end Dell laptops

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In theory, laptops from Dell should work with Linux. In practice, not so much, especially if you like to sleep and wake up from sleep everytime without a crash + a reasonable power consumption, both during use and during sleep. IMHO consumption during sleep far more important: if I didn't plug the computer, I expect it to wake up immediately (no S4/suspend to disk) and with less than 0.5% of battery lost per hour (so…

I run two XPS 15s (2015ish 9550 workhorse / main computer, 2022ish 9250) and haven't had the slightest issue with either, although I keep the on board Nvidia disabled on both, which might explain the "reasonable power consumption" bit.

Hardware on the other hand, these things are like caring for an anorexic bubble baby with severe bone density issues. The hardware is a piece of shit, but also extremely easy to repair. Burned through at least 3 keyboards on the 2015, at least 4 pairs of speakers (new set sitting in a parcel in the room right now), 1 motherboard (mechanical stress snapped the heatsink), 2 power plugs, replacement top case because of screen latch stress snapping some tiny piece of plastic, probably more I've forgotten. Separately, the mic seems to be installed literally inside the fans, they made the screen bezel so thin on the 2022 model that they couldn't even include a web cam competitive with the 1998 Game Boy camera, it's embarrassing to videoconf from it

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