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Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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At the time, Windows NT was lauded for having better security than its competitors. I remember “Department of Defense C2 level security” being invoked often. It was a major selling point, though one that didn’t feel relevant for most users (in fact, lots of people felt like “why would I need this?”; it made it seem like an OS that wasn’t for “normal users”). Early ’90s conceptions of security—both what makes it and h…

Windows XP still likely meets that standard as long as it's air-gapped and placed in a facility that has at least the equivalent level of access control, and never removed.

... and never used. That was the punchline?

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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The bit I found interesting was how Xbox's hypervisor is based on that of Azure, rather than anything they did on the desktop, and that Xbox games are/were packaged up with an OS rather than relying on a single OS on the device, so a bit more like containers. Dave also said he's working on making ML workloads run on idle Xbox Cloud Gaming devices. Any architectural tie between Azure and Xbox had never occurred to me…

Packaging a game with the entire OS was very common in all consoles, since the game was supposed to be the only thing running, and in real time .

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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I’ll recommend here the book “Showstopper!: The Breakneck Race to Create Windows NT and the Next Generation at Microsoft”, which someone else recommended a few weeks ago. Link: I’m still reading it, but it’s really enjoyable. And it makes me wish I had been part of that history. Particularly the whole thing about dogfooding a brand new OS. But it caught me a few years too early.

How about https://www.amazon.com/Barbarians-Bill-Gates-Jennifer-Edstro... ? :)

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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The interviewer, Dave Plummer, is also is also an amazingly interesting person in his own right. I particularly enjoyed his retro-coding videos, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZe2JwrJqM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0zxIfJJLAY The videos are really interesting and his background muzak and RGB lighting puts me in a Christmas mood. He generally put Microsoft in a completely different light than I'm us…

YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful, incentivizing people to avoid exploring videos on controversial topics once they learn that if they do so, they’ll be inundated with garbage on that topic. The recent forcing of people (including me) to turn off their ad blockers was an eye opener. Holy crap, YouTube ads are hot garbage, and it’s embarrassing to think that any humans respond to them. YouTube has…

> YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful, incentivizing people to avoid exploring videos on controversial topics once they learn that if they do so, they’ll be inundated with garbage on that topic.

Right-click on the video in question and copy the URL, open a new private mode window, and then paste the link in. Your default viewing preferences won't be contaminated.

A bit hoop-jump-y, but it works well for me.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha! I didn't know he had adhd. I watched one video of his last week and ever since my feed is all adhd stuff. I was so confused, but now it makes sense.

He doesn't have ADHD, he's autistic. But for some reason the youtube algorithm assumes they are the exact same thing.

His book intro says he has ADHD also, so it's probably mentioned here and there in video transcripts.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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I’ll recommend here the book “Showstopper!: The Breakneck Race to Create Windows NT and the Next Generation at Microsoft”, which someone else recommended a few weeks ago. Link: I’m still reading it, but it’s really enjoyable. And it makes me wish I had been part of that history. Particularly the whole thing about dogfooding a brand new OS. But it caught me a few years too early.

Great book. I remember reading it on the flight out to a job interview with an OS team. Thanks to the book, I sounded much more knowledgable than I really was, and I was more excited about the whole space than I had been a few days earlier. ;-)

(Got the offer, but didn't end up taking the job.)

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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The Computer History Museum oral history interview with David Cutler is also very good: Part 1: https://youtu.be/29RkHH-psrY Part 2: https://youtu.be/SVgSLud50ss

Yes, having watched that I'm waiting to see if there's substantial difference in the content between the two. I've watched a few snippets of this new interview, but so far I am not sure I heard anything new.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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post #41

I’ll recommend here the book “Showstopper!: The Breakneck Race to Create Windows NT and the Next Generation at Microsoft”, which someone else recommended a few weeks ago. Link: I’m still reading it, but it’s really enjoyable. And it makes me wish I had been part of that history. Particularly the whole thing about dogfooding a brand new OS. But it caught me a few years too early.

How about https://www.amazon.com/Barbarians-Bill-Gates-Jennifer-Edstro... ? :)

Also a great book

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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post #41

I’ll recommend here the book “Showstopper!: The Breakneck Race to Create Windows NT and the Next Generation at Microsoft”, which someone else recommended a few weeks ago. Link: I’m still reading it, but it’s really enjoyable. And it makes me wish I had been part of that history. Particularly the whole thing about dogfooding a brand new OS. But it caught me a few years too early.

I came here to mention exactly that, I read it a few months ago and really enjoyed it too.

Relevant too: https://blog.codinghorror.com/showstopper/

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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The bit I found interesting was how Xbox's hypervisor is based on that of Azure, rather than anything they did on the desktop, and that Xbox games are/were packaged up with an OS rather than relying on a single OS on the device, so a bit more like containers. Dave also said he's working on making ML workloads run on idle Xbox Cloud Gaming devices. Any architectural tie between Azure and Xbox had never occurred to me…

The hypervisor in Azure, Xbox and Windows are all the same: HyperV.
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