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Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by zo1 »

guraf wrote: post #81
zo1 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or this as a good time / excuse to ditch YouTube, even if uBlockOrigin resolves it. Additionally, I'm honestly half-scared that they'll block my account if they notice me breaking their "Terms of Service" by blocking ads. So this is also serving as a good time for me to Degoogle my online presence. Screw them, I eagerly await their demise, as they've singlehandedly ruined the web and so much more.

YouTube ruined the web by... Providing a free platform to host videos open to everybody? By allowing video creators to be paid?

I was referring to Google in general. Youtube is one slice of what they do. And it's also infected with the same perverse and subtle incentives when it comes to advertising.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by hoorible »

breakall wrote: post #39
martin_a wrote: post #3

Never forget that Adblock Plus is a commercial product developed by a company which you can pay to get your ads listed as "acceptable ads" which makes them pass the filtering. uBlock Origin is still probably the best tool for blocking ads: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/

i love ublock origin and have used it for years. i recently migrated to macos and was disappointed to find that ublock origin doesn’t work with safari. what’s the best ad-blocking option for safari on macos?

1Blocker already mentioned, but it is is absolutely fantastic.

The iOS version also blocks in-app trackers (in other apps, outside of Safari) and YouTube app ads via its firewall feature.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by distract8901 »

tumsfestival wrote: post #60
distract8901 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder at what point will Google start splicing ads directly into the video feed? Surely there's a way to do it without transcoding the entire file again.

Twitch already does this on the fly and it's a pain to bypass, I think the question is why Youtube hasn't started doing it yet given how effective it is.

I can't imagine that google hasn't thought about it. The sheer scale of the processing cost to do it is probably too high with as much video they serve.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by Nexxxeh »

gcanyon wrote: post #65
martin_a wrote: post #3

Never forget that Adblock Plus is a commercial product developed by a company which you can pay to get your ads listed as "acceptable ads" which makes them pass the filtering. uBlock Origin is still probably the best tool for blocking ads: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/

I have uBlock Origin installed in Arc, and ended up getting burned by the YouTube adblocking blocking purge because each time the warning came up, I checked to see if there was a way to whitelist YT and didn't find it. Now I'm watching YT in Safari on my iPad, where the block doesn't apply. So: anyone know how to whitelist YT in uBlock Origin in Arc?

I can't give you Arc specifics, but the /r/uBlockOrigin subreddit are generally on the ball. May be worth a check!

https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by IanCal »

etedor wrote: post #89
IanCal wrote: post #2

This may be controversial but YouTube ads are surely ones that meet all the reasonable criteria. They're not a surprise, you know it's an ad supported business. They're served from YouTube so it's not random companies tracking you while you use a different service. And you can get rid of them by paying for the service. What's the proposed alternative where you contribute for the service? Just paywall the whole thing?

They are a surprise. They’re variable length and appear at random moments. Their volume can greatly differ from the content you are watching. No thanks. The proposed alternative is Google can continue to bankroll it. They are not hurting for money.

Your proposed alternative is that it's simply run at a loss? I don't think that's a particularly reasonable business proposal.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by etedor »

IanCal wrote: post #95
etedor wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a surprise. They’re variable length and appear at random moments. Their volume can greatly differ from the content you are watching. No thanks. The proposed alternative is Google can continue to bankroll it. They are not hurting for money.

Your proposed alternative is that it's simply run at a loss? I don't think that's a particularly reasonable business proposal.

What makes you think Google is running at a loss?

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by ThatPlayer »

pixxel wrote: post #85
izacus wrote: post #35

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Ok, so if Google is too big and YouTube is split away from Google... who exactly will pay for bandwidth, server and transcoder costs for all the adblocking freeloaders? If you ever tried to host videos yourself, you'll quickly see that it costs a stupid amount of money to manage. Why would a standalone YouTube LLC. allow anyone to access it with an adblocker and without subscription? (People seem to lose their mind o…

P2P. They could have implemented it years ago but instead prefer to control humanity’s video library and take on the full financial burden. Some people don’t want to pay Google to continue to harvest their data, and they despise the parasitical corporation.

And just like how people refuse to watch ads, they'll refuse to "donate their storage, bandwidth, and battery life to Google". With everyone else on phones and laptops, P2P will never be mainstream.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by tomjakubowski »

IanCal wrote: post #44
hendersoon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not responsible for sustaining Google's monetization. There is no such social contract. If their business model isn't sustainable, they should find a new one. That's their problem, not mine.

You're not, and they're not responsible for delivering you video if you don't want to pay them or watch ads. I'm not sure what's contradictory here.

I think GP is just responding to your comment's premise that they have to propose any alternative, or that they have to "contribute" to YouTube in some way.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by Condition1952 »

breakall wrote: post #39
martin_a wrote: post #3

Never forget that Adblock Plus is a commercial product developed by a company which you can pay to get your ads listed as "acceptable ads" which makes them pass the filtering. uBlock Origin is still probably the best tool for blocking ads: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/

i love ublock origin and have used it for years. i recently migrated to macos and was disappointed to find that ublock origin doesn’t work with safari. what’s the best ad-blocking option for safari on macos?

Little Snitch, a proprietary firewall, subscribed to some ad blocking lists can block surveillance system-wide
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