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"Do i look fat?" It's a trap! If we say 'No' then the bloat continues. And if we say 'Yes you're fat' she runs away crying. And the bloat still continues. Honestly, Yes. You're still fat. But some progress has been made. Keep going. Stop when you hear the first complaint about too skinny.
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It's in the FAQ https://areweslimyet.com/faq.htm#how-is-this-data-generated
Actually, even that just used the Acronym without explanation. I missed the link in the 'answer though'. So 'after TP5' means after loading a manually curated list based on the top 500 web pages? Huh, in that case I'm impressed with how Firefox has improved.
> So 'after TP5' means after loading a manually curated list based on the top 500 web pages?
Yes. TP5 is a list of 100 pages (based on Alexa 500, I believe, but I'm not sure), and we load the pages 5 times in 30 tabs.
I'm just hoping slimming down memory usage won't go at the expense of speed... my systems have 16GB of RAM - I want Firefox to use as much memory as possible to speed up my experience. So if slimming down FF will make my disk trash more, that's the wrong direction to take.
In an age when most computers come with 4+ GB of RAM, I think people focus too much on memory. Of course there are older computers, but their OS should be using comparably less RAM. WinXP takes up 100 MB at login, so if you only have 1 GB on an older computer, you should still have no problem running modern Firefox. And if you only have 512 MB, it's probably time to upgrade since the web experience that a modern brow…
After a manufacturer begrudgingly provides the RAM that developers refuse to conserve, we shouldn't then use the presence of this additional RAM to use even more.
Your friend's anger at application waste is justified. Witness new devices like the iPad that survive with much less RAM than a desktop -- just 512MB, which happens to be enough to support an excellent browser.
Not yet, but getting there. Also the bazillion extension that exist for Firefox are not really helping. A "task manager" to be able to keep on eye on all extensions memory consumption (and be able to kill the extension from the browser) should really be helpful.
Try about:memory, it's pretty good.
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They still have a way to go to hit "pretty." Sadly, it's a lot harder to measure than "fast" or "slim". I wish I had the language to describe why Safari's font rendering is so much better than Firefox's; it's "visually obvious", but I just don't have the vocabulary or expertise to analyze.
There are many articles about Safari's font rendering, here is one: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html I think it's more accurate to say that it's different , whether or not it is better seems to be a matter of preference and priorities.
I'm just hoping slimming down memory usage won't go at the expense of speed... my systems have 16GB of RAM - I want Firefox to use as much memory as possible to speed up my experience. So if slimming down FF will make my disk trash more, that's the wrong direction to take.
> So if slimming down FF will make my disk trash more, > that's the wrong direction to take. We explicitly don't want to cause this. When we reduce the number of nodes in the live object graph, our garbage collector and cycle collector run faster. This results in shorter stop-the-world pauses when we collect. This isn't the only thing we've done as part of MemShrink, of course, but it's an example of how reducing mem…
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I am not a specialist on that stuff, but I note the "will". If they have launched and noticed actual improvements, I'll be interested.
nnethercote on the other hand is the "specialist" as he is in charge of the MemShrink project itself... I would trust him on this stuff.
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nnethercote on the other hand is the "specialist" as he is in charge of the MemShrink project itself... I would trust him on this stuff.
OK, but the developers of Mozilla are specialists, too. Why not trust them? Or is nnethercote part of the Mozilla dev team? MemShrink will hopefully just be merged into the core?
SCNR ;)