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Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by Aloha »

pdw wrote: post #45
fassssst wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean a lot of this stuff was built before the internet.

More accurately, before Microsoft cared about the Internet.

No, not just that, but before the idea that most systems would be internet connected.

NT's design was started in 1989 and 3.1 was released in 1993 - development started a full 7 years before the idea of a connected world was commonplace, and a full 12 years before wide deployment of broadband.

Whatever comes along that is a clean break with NT, and Unix - will have these assumptions built in.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by elf25 »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #26
justin66 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful, incentivizing people to avoid exploring videos on controversial topics once they learn that if they do so, they’ll be inundated with garbage on that topic. The recent forcing of people (including me) to turn off their ad blockers was an eye opener. Holy crap, YouTube ads are hot garbage, and it’s embarrassing to think that any humans respond to them. YouTube has…

The ads are awful on purpose, so people buy Premium. Then, once users pay for Premium, they can do the same as cable TV and _still_ sell ads. Easy 2x revenue.

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Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by glhaynes »

mikewarot wrote: post #32

Looking back on all both Daves said, there is an extraordinary amount of attention paid to getting things done and out the door, and almost no mention of planning ahead, and actual security strategy. Its all commercial pressure to get the sausage out of the meat grinder, and keep the failures down to an acceptable level. No wonder things never get better, and never take a turn in the right direction, industry wide. I…

At the time, Windows NT was lauded for having better security than its competitors. I remember “Department of Defense C2 level security” being invoked often. It was a major selling point, though one that didn’t feel relevant for most users (in fact, lots of people felt like “why would I need this?”; it made it seem like an OS that wasn’t for “normal users”).

Early ’90s conceptions of security—both what makes it and how relevant it is/for whom—don’t match our expectations or what we consider state of the art today.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by jorvi »

justin66 wrote: post #9
mrweasel wrote: post #7

The interviewer, Dave Plummer, is also is also an amazingly interesting person in his own right. I particularly enjoyed his retro-coding videos, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZe2JwrJqM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0zxIfJJLAY The videos are really interesting and his background muzak and RGB lighting puts me in a Christmas mood. He generally put Microsoft in a completely different light than I'm us…

YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful, incentivizing people to avoid exploring videos on controversial topics once they learn that if they do so, they’ll be inundated with garbage on that topic. The recent forcing of people (including me) to turn off their ad blockers was an eye opener. Holy crap, YouTube ads are hot garbage, and it’s embarrassing to think that any humans respond to them. YouTube has…

> YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful

This is what surprised me a lot. A friend of mine made me install TikTok (after me disparaging it a lot). I made an account for it with a dummy address, went off to the races, and after a couple of days I suddenly caught myself having been scrolling my feed for ~1h10m minutes without realizing it. I literally recoiled and dropped my phone, after which I uninstalled TikTok immediately.

YouTube has never had that kind of grip on my dopamine receptors. There are a great many (longform) edifying videos on there. And sure, there are interesting videos, and it is good at recommending a few adjacent videos to those. But the algorithm is not nearly as good as TikTok, I can recognize that immediately.

Aside from how horrifically good TikTok is at hooking your dopamine receptors, another thing I have to give it credit for is how egalitarian it is. YouTube is all about subscribers and network reach. On TikTok it’s the content that goes viral, not the creator.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by colejohnson66 »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #26
justin66 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful, incentivizing people to avoid exploring videos on controversial topics once they learn that if they do so, they’ll be inundated with garbage on that topic. The recent forcing of people (including me) to turn off their ad blockers was an eye opener. Holy crap, YouTube ads are hot garbage, and it’s embarrassing to think that any humans respond to them. YouTube has…

The ads are awful on purpose, so people buy Premium. Then, once users pay for Premium, they can do the same as cable TV and _still_ sell ads. Easy 2x revenue.

Premium does not have ads. I know because I don’t see them.

Sponsorships do not count because they’re placed by the creators themselves.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by MichaelZuo »

glhaynes wrote: post #63
mikewarot wrote: post #32

Looking back on all both Daves said, there is an extraordinary amount of attention paid to getting things done and out the door, and almost no mention of planning ahead, and actual security strategy. Its all commercial pressure to get the sausage out of the meat grinder, and keep the failures down to an acceptable level. No wonder things never get better, and never take a turn in the right direction, industry wide. I…

At the time, Windows NT was lauded for having better security than its competitors. I remember “Department of Defense C2 level security” being invoked often. It was a major selling point, though one that didn’t feel relevant for most users (in fact, lots of people felt like “why would I need this?”; it made it seem like an OS that wasn’t for “normal users”). Early ’90s conceptions of security—both what makes it and h…

Windows XP still likely meets that standard as long as it's air-gapped and placed in a facility that has at least the equivalent level of access control, and never removed.

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by omnibrain »

naikrovek wrote: post #14
jotato wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha! I didn't know he had adhd. I watched one video of his last week and ever since my feed is all adhd stuff. I was so confused, but now it makes sense.

I feel like no one on the planet understands how YouTube recommendations work. the same for Large Language Models. YouTube keeps a watch history of every user. users can clean up their view of their watch history, but YouTube keeps it all. if you watch any particular video, YouTube will start suggesting videos watched by other people who watched the video you just watched. YouTube does not know or care what the subje…

> YouTube keeps a watch history of every user.

But why does youtube keep recommending me videos I already watched and worse, if I have autoplay enabled, plays videos I already watched?

Re: Dave Cutler on Windows [video]

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Post by techphl »

jorvi wrote: post #64
justin66 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful, incentivizing people to avoid exploring videos on controversial topics once they learn that if they do so, they’ll be inundated with garbage on that topic. The recent forcing of people (including me) to turn off their ad blockers was an eye opener. Holy crap, YouTube ads are hot garbage, and it’s embarrassing to think that any humans respond to them. YouTube has…

> YouTube recommendations have always been pretty awful This is what surprised me a lot. A friend of mine made me install TikTok (after me disparaging it a lot). I made an account for it with a dummy address, went off to the races, and after a couple of days I suddenly caught myself having been scrolling my feed for ~1h10m minutes without realizing it. I literally recoiled and dropped my phone, after which I uninstal…

Totally agree - TikTok is the most addictive app on your phone. You can download the Unhook chrome extension which blocks related videos and shorts. That really helps to improve your youtube experience.
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