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Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by zo1 »

kouteiheika wrote: post #9

> We know how important it is for our users to browse YouTube without ads for free. And we hope to come up with a solution soon! No need to wait. Just switch to uBlock Origin where this is already fixed. Here's a guide if they still show up and you're using UBO: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/178yasm/youtu... (Basically you need to make sure you're up to date, and you disable any overzealous filter li…

Or this as a good time / excuse to ditch YouTube, even if uBlockOrigin resolves it.

Additionally, I'm honestly half-scared that they'll block my account if they notice me breaking their "Terms of Service" by blocking ads. So this is also serving as a good time for me to Degoogle my online presence. Screw them, I eagerly await their demise, as they've singlehandedly ruined the web and so much more.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by MallocVoidstar »

beej71 wrote: post #63
mschuster91 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tbh, that scares me, simply because of the potential that one day, someone will offer enough money that it can't reasonably be expected from anyone to decline that offer.

Is ubo under an open source license? If so, it would instantly fork.

GPLv3: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/blob/master/LICENSE.txt

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by quadrifoliate »

Honestly, the only product that can really compete with uBlockOrigin at this point is a version of AdNauseum for Youtube -- something that registers a click on every single ad that YouTube shows until it stops showing you more ads.

There is currently no negative feedback for YouTube ads. They are free to show you ads every single minute if some manager there thinks that this will increase monetization by 1%. And no, paying for YouTube Premium isn't going to work; Amazon Prime Video was this way (I paid for it, and got ad-free shows in return), but they are now introducing "limited ads" that you will need to pay $3 extra a month for.

The only reasonable negative feedback is to have too many clicks on ads, so the advertiser stops showing you them because the person paying for ads is not getting the desired clickthrough rate.

The advertising industry likes to make up scary terms like "ad fraud" for this, but that's ridiculous -- a human can totally click an ad link and then make a decision not to engage further with the product. I do it all the time. Having an extension make that decision on my behalf would be fantastic.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#74

Post by pitdicker »

martin_a wrote: post #3

Never forget that Adblock Plus is a commercial product developed by a company which you can pay to get your ads listed as "acceptable ads" which makes them pass the filtering. uBlock Origin is still probably the best tool for blocking ads: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/

Around 2010 I started playing with Adblock Plus, and provided a translation for a while. Wladimir Palant was a friendly, responsive, and as I understand it respected developer.

There were not countless adblockers, just Adblock and Adblock Plus. Adblock was abandoned, and Adblock Plus was were the innovation and performance improvements were happening.

Adblock Plus was there in the first controversies around adblocking ethics. It 'took care' of the first lawsuit. It did a lot of good work that the later adblockers benefit from.

Personally I have never been a fan of the acceptable ads feature. But it comes from that time, and offers a middle ground in the adblocking ethics debate, and a way to finance legal troubles.

Now I have not been involved in a very long time (Using uBlock Origin and whatever filters are default), but just condemning Adblock Plus outright is a bit too quick.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by lapcat »

dchest wrote: post #69
tizio13 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I currently use 1blocker(paid version) and it seems to be working pretty well compared to Firefox with ublock. I use it both on iOS and macOS. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker/id13655310...

It works great, but doesn't work against YouTube's anti-adblock yet.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37975189

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

mschuster91 wrote: post #56
TheRoque wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I learned the other day that the developer(s ?) of uBlock origin don't even accept donation. That's a really dedicated behavior for someone owning on app installed on probably a million devices, that could make money in an instant if he wanted to.

tbh, that scares me, simply because of the potential that one day, someone will offer enough money that it can't reasonably be expected from anyone to decline that offer.

It reassures me. Because if gorhill cared about money, he would have a 100% ethical, simple way to immediately open the floodgates and make a five- to six-digit amount per year.

This suggests to me that he doesn't need nor care about having more money, and will be very hard to corrupt by offering money. How do you bribe a person that has free money with no strings attached offered to them and says "no thanks"?

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by randunel »

muro wrote: post #66
kouteiheika wrote: post #9

> We know how important it is for our users to browse YouTube without ads for free. And we hope to come up with a solution soon! No need to wait. Just switch to uBlock Origin where this is already fixed. Here's a guide if they still show up and you're using UBO: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/178yasm/youtu... (Basically you need to make sure you're up to date, and you disable any overzealous filter li…

It costs about 15 per month to watch YouTube without ads.

It's my browser running on my computer, I get the final say in how content is presented to me.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by kjkjadksj »

muro wrote: post #66
kouteiheika wrote: post #9

> We know how important it is for our users to browse YouTube without ads for free. And we hope to come up with a solution soon! No need to wait. Just switch to uBlock Origin where this is already fixed. Here's a guide if they still show up and you're using UBO: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/178yasm/youtu... (Basically you need to make sure you're up to date, and you disable any overzealous filter li…

It costs about 15 per month to watch YouTube without ads.

That still won’t do what sponsorblock does for you with ads the content creator injects vs youtube

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by echelon »

izacus wrote: post #35
echelon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is too big. All of the giant tech companies are. This behavior is a symptom of reaching across industries in search of growth. Is there any reason a grocery store should be a movie studio? This sucks the air out of the room for smaller companies to innovate. Search would be much better if it wasn't being shoved down our throat by a single company that controls (or buys access to) all of the panes of glass Amer…

Ok, so if Google is too big and YouTube is split away from Google... who exactly will pay for bandwidth, server and transcoder costs for all the adblocking freeloaders? If you ever tried to host videos yourself, you'll quickly see that it costs a stupid amount of money to manage. Why would a standalone YouTube LLC. allow anyone to access it with an adblocker and without subscription? (People seem to lose their mind o…

An independent YouTube would figure it out.

Netflix works. Facebook works. Ad-supported video streaming works.

A standalone YouTube would remove the insane perverse incentives and double dipping that Google has wrought in their ownership of YouTube.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

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Post by eur0pa »

muro wrote: post #66
kouteiheika wrote: post #9

> We know how important it is for our users to browse YouTube without ads for free. And we hope to come up with a solution soon! No need to wait. Just switch to uBlock Origin where this is already fixed. Here's a guide if they still show up and you're using UBO: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/178yasm/youtu... (Basically you need to make sure you're up to date, and you disable any overzealous filter li…

It costs about 15 per month to watch YouTube without ads.

No thanks
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