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Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by hirundo »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #49
unnamed76ri wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything does not stem from wealth inequality. Almost-everything wrong in US culture stems from selfishness. Which would include things you talked about. But it also includes people making selfish choices that bring about the end of their marriages (affairs, career, addictions).

? So the wealth inequality right? How do you think the wealthy got wealthy without selfishness? You seem to be implying that it isn't the inequality, but that all those poor people should stop being selfish. If only those poor people would stop being selfish, the wealth inequality wouldn't be a problem. LOL.

Wealth follows a Pareto distribution, and there are many Pareto distributions of things that are not caused by selfishness.

https://www.thelangelfirm.com/debt-collection-defense-blog/2...

If selfishness isn't a good general explanation for Pareto distributions, is there a reason that it's particularly explanatory for wealth distribution?

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by actionfromafar »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #67
pylua wrote: post #50

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You certainly can, but going by the numbers most people can’t.

In what sense? Where are the people starving to death? Most people seem to be able to do just fine on zero incomes.

Can’t see the goalposts anymore, where are they?

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by jkhdigital »

lapcat wrote: post #38

It appears that marriage and money are inextricably bound. After all, Melissa Kearney is an economist. And of course the success of children is related to the wealth and education of their parents. The article mentions money many times: > Kearney notes that families headed by a single mother are five times more likely to live in poverty than families headed by a married couple. > Most single mothers start from behind…

As with nearly all of social science, we can’t really run the controlled experiments necessary to determine if this is a causal relationship. Just because it looks like a “monetary problem” does not mean that throwing money at it will fix anything.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

DonaldTruck wrote: post #58
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #15

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Do you mean the children of Black parents? If that's really the case, I see no problem of cancellation here as it would further accentuate the point of systematic disadvantages of people of color.

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> Few have the combination of intellectual integrity and social obliviousness to publicly ignore that these socioeconomic factors likely have common causes among them, including lower intelligence, poorer impulse control, tendency towards violence and aggression, lower empathy, etc.

OK, assuming for a moment these are true. What solutions do you offer? Because if this is the conclusion, i.e. the fault is inherent to the Black people, you basically block any (reasonable) solution. Whereas if you focus on relevant external factors, there is always a way out.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by jollofricepeas »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

Actually…

You’re right.

Wealth inequality means less jobs for the lower class. Specifically, less high paying manufacturing (labor) jobs.

There’s lot of studies that show that marriage rates have decreased because of…

- the decrease in union power

- globalization (offshoring)

- technological innovation

Read them here:

American Economic Institute - https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aeri.20180010

Brookings Institute - https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-marriage-gap-the-impa...

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by unnamed76ri »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #49
unnamed76ri wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything does not stem from wealth inequality. Almost-everything wrong in US culture stems from selfishness. Which would include things you talked about. But it also includes people making selfish choices that bring about the end of their marriages (affairs, career, addictions).

? So the wealth inequality right? How do you think the wealthy got wealthy without selfishness? You seem to be implying that it isn't the inequality, but that all those poor people should stop being selfish. If only those poor people would stop being selfish, the wealth inequality wouldn't be a problem. LOL.

You seem to be looking for an argument that I don’t care to be invited to.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by 2devnull »

bequanna wrote: post #55
Mayzie wrote: post #32

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You can’t survive or support a family with a single income these days.. It’s required for both partners to work.

You absolutely can. Our family does and many of my friends do. They aren’t all wealthy people. It isn’t always a choice, but often it is. Many people can live on one income but choose a lifestyle that requires two.

Do you live in an area with high international demand for housing?

Not all of the US is a hot spot for high paid immigrants, yet. Displacement is a real thing. Not everyone can change states or nations to make the finances work out.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by 2devnull »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #60
unnamed76ri wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything does not stem from wealth inequality. Almost-everything wrong in US culture stems from selfishness. Which would include things you talked about. But it also includes people making selfish choices that bring about the end of their marriages (affairs, career, addictions).

Some things stem from wealth inequality.

Name one thing.

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Post by throwaway5Am1k »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

At some point, you need to stop blaming (or giving power to) others for your situation, and take control for your own wellbeing. Who you marry is well within your control, and not the 0.1%. Take some responsibility, it's a good first step to improving your, and your community's situation.

>Everything stems from this.

No, not it doesn't. If you think that wealth distribution is the cause of all of today's problems, you need to do more exploration.

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