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A good first step would be to first remove economic disincentives such as tax penalties and reductions in benefits.
Or.. remove benefits.
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Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
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Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#32America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…
I’m not sure everything stems from this. Marriage was not just for the wealthy and nobles in the Middle Ages, or in the 1800s or in subsaharan Africa, etc. If it’s a matter of relative wealth disparity, there have been plenty of eras (probably the majority of recorded human history) in which the kings and nobles had a similar wealth gap to their poorest married subjects as we see today between the 1% and the 99%. I’m…
You can’t survive or support a family with a single income these days.. It’s required for both partners to work.
Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#33America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…
I strongly agree with this. It’s unbelievable to me that no media outlet can reach this conclusion.
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Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#35Is it that marriage itself is beneficial or that people capable of maintaining a relationship make better parents? Divorce is significantly more common for bipolar, paranoid, and schizophrenic people for example. So I think we need to look at widows or something to control for those kinds of issues.
On a slightly related note, why is it that one gets lynched on twitter nowadays any time one brings up that "correlation doesn't imply causation"?
Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#36America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…
nice excuse for not being able to maintain relationships. Going by your logic, maintaining one in poorer countries should be impossible
I suspect there are other complicating factors in western cultures that may but additional stress on relationships, including blaming yourself instead of the environment for your situation.
Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#37"Their book suggests that many women don't marry the father of their child not because they reject the concept of marriage, but because they do not see him as a reliable source of economic security or stability." Marriage is not a magical thing that fixes economic problems, even if you want to keep turning the clock back and make certain acts outside of marriage illegal. The only thing that fixes economic problems is…
I would like to hear from people who downvote you their reasons. In discussions such as these where nuances matter a lot, a downvote (or upvote) is meaningless.
Dowbvotes could very well be because GP is putting words in the paper's mouth. And not very good words either.
Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#38It appears that marriage and money are inextricably bound. After all, Melissa Kearney is an economist. And of course the success of children is related to the wealth and education of their parents. The article mentions money many times:
> Kearney notes that families headed by a single mother are five times more likely to live in poverty than families headed by a married couple.
> Most single mothers start from behind; they're less likely to have a college education or a high income. Single motherhood is a lot less prevalent in higher-educated women.
> Data also shows that many single mothers don't have help from any other adult, like a grandparent or other family member. That means it's mom who both supports the family financially and serves as the primary caregiver.
> many women don't marry the father of their child not because they reject the concept of marriage, but because they do not see him as a reliable source of economic security or stability.
This doesn't look like a "moral" problem (family values, yadda yadda). It looks more like a monetary problem.
Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not sure everything stems from this. Marriage was not just for the wealthy and nobles in the Middle Ages, or in the 1800s or in subsaharan Africa, etc. If it’s a matter of relative wealth disparity, there have been plenty of eras (probably the majority of recorded human history) in which the kings and nobles had a similar wealth gap to their poorest married subjects as we see today between the 1% and the 99%. I’m…
You can’t survive or support a family with a single income these days.. It’s required for both partners to work.
Been doing it for more than 15 years.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way
#40Is it that marriage itself is beneficial or that people capable of maintaining a relationship make better parents? Divorce is significantly more common for bipolar, paranoid, and schizophrenic people for example. So I think we need to look at widows or something to control for those kinds of issues.
Some bad answers (and non-answers) to your question here. There are many studies on this with various conclusions worth reading, example set [1]. At a high level, US marriages (and potentially non-US long-term partnerships) bring stability, additional economic support, an additional role model (completely missing for boys growing up in a single mother household), additional attention & emotional support at home, and the ability to split parenting tasks as the need arises (ex. dad goes to a school event because mom needs to work late, or vice versa).
Also important to note is that parental attention has a large impact on academic outcomes of kids [2], so in single parent households where the parent doesn't have the time to provide sufficient attention, the kids suffer at school compared to their two-parent peers.
[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C44&q=two...
[2] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00131911.2013.78...