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Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by hfuyf65 »

mhb wrote: post #18
kibwen wrote: post #6

> Kearney says she's not advocating that children live in a household filled with marital tension or where parents are unhappy or mistreating each other. Then what is the proposed solution? Pointing out the problem is the easy part. But if you want more people to be married, and if they're currently choosing not to get married, then you need to either force them to get married against their will (institutionalized sh…

A good first step would be to first remove economic disincentives such as tax penalties and reductions in benefits.

Or.. remove benefits.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by christophilus »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

I’m not sure everything stems from this. Marriage was not just for the wealthy and nobles in the Middle Ages, or in the 1800s or in subsaharan Africa, etc.

If it’s a matter of relative wealth disparity, there have been plenty of eras (probably the majority of recorded human history) in which the kings and nobles had a similar wealth gap to their poorest married subjects as we see today between the 1% and the 99%.

I’m not defending wealth disparity; simply suggesting there’s likely another cause for the marriage-rate collapse.

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Post by lvl102 »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

I find it ridiculous that healthcare is the greatest driver of cost of living but no one does anything about it. Doctors and nurses are overworked too. It’s the biggest scam going right now and all the politicians are in on it.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by seaman1921 »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

nice excuse for not being able to maintain relationships. Going by your logic, maintaining one in poorer countries should be impossible

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by DangitBobby »

sneed_chucker wrote: post #16

The system of marriage in the United States was built around social and economic assumptions that largely don't hold anymore.

Maybe it will be rebuilt around the belief that it's a better environment for child rearing.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by threeseed »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

> Everything stems from this.

Almost everything.

One issue is that although most Western countries have Paid Parental Leave (except for US) pregnancy still puts women at a career disadvantage. Because companies can sometimes find out that either (a) the person's role was unnecessary or (b) their replacement is better.

And so especially for women in senior positions it's just not worth the risk.

Another is around the cost and availability of child care. Current global shortage is a real issue.

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Post by pierat »

kibwen wrote: post #6

> Kearney says she's not advocating that children live in a household filled with marital tension or where parents are unhappy or mistreating each other. Then what is the proposed solution? Pointing out the problem is the easy part. But if you want more people to be married, and if they're currently choosing not to get married, then you need to either force them to get married against their will (institutionalized sh…

> Then what is the proposed solution? Pointing out the problem is the easy part.

This is not a position paper. This paper is a finding of fact.

Demanding that they must advocate something is an anathema to proper science.

And, saying that "pointing out the problem is the easy part" indicates to me you're not in the sciences. It's laughable, even.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by jkhdigital »

Retric wrote: post #2

Is it that marriage itself is beneficial or that people capable of maintaining a relationship make better parents? Divorce is significantly more common for bipolar, paranoid, and schizophrenic people for example. So I think we need to look at widows or something to control for those kinds of issues.

Funny you mention that. I have four siblings, raised together in a (mostly) traditional family, and all five of us have children now. The only one who is not married is my schizophrenic sister.

However, my late aunt was schizophrenic and stayed married for her entire adult life, so who knows.

Re: Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

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Post by unnamed76ri »

bloopernova wrote: post #5

America is moving the other way because all the wealth and power has been sucked up by the 0.1% and a large majority are too tired, stressed, and poor. Everything stems from this. Too much wealth tied up in the health insurance scam to switch to single payer, so people stay bound to their employment, and they can't afford time off or visits to the doctor because nothing is completely covered anymore. Too much wealth…

Everything does not stem from wealth inequality. Almost-everything wrong in US culture stems from selfishness. Which would include things you talked about. But it also includes people making selfish choices that bring about the end of their marriages (affairs, career, addictions).
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