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Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#21

Post by echelon »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #17

Google is desperate to display ads on YouTube. YouTube videos, even of poor quality, often rank highly in Google search results. This means that Google can double its profits by displaying ads on YouTube, in addition to its search advertising revenue.

Google is too big. All of the giant tech companies are. This behavior is a symptom of reaching across industries in search of growth.

Is there any reason a grocery store should be a movie studio?

This sucks the air out of the room for smaller companies to innovate. Search would be much better if it wasn't being shoved down our throat by a single company that controls (or buys access to) all of the panes of glass Americans use to compute.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#22

Post by bad_user »

ssl232 wrote: post #6
gray_-_wolf wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I just do not want to have a "business" relationship with google. I would not mind paying for youtube, if it was a separate company. But google does not need my money, and any money the get are used to actively making the world worse (WEI, SEO spam, Search getting worse, ...). On a separate note, there are reports of people getting their whole google account locked for payment issue…

I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

I'm paying $8.30 / month for the Family option. That's like 2 or 3 coffees. In other countries this is more expensive, but it's adjusted for local buying power.

Both you and the parent simply come up with reasons to avoid paying, getting the service for free.

No matter how you look at it, what you're doing is immoral, because if everyone did it, YouTube would be permanently paywalled and placed under DRM. You're a privileged individual that prefers to be subsidized by those that pay or that watch ads.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#24

Post by logifail »

dewey wrote: post #20
logifail wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you also boycotting every other large company that uses the tax system in a legal way that you don't agree with? Umm, where possible why wouldn't one choose to avoid giving your money to companies that behave in ways you object to?

Voting with your wallet is always the best, my point was that most (all?) big companies will use the tax system in a way to give them the best outcome that's possible through legal means.

> most (all?) big companies will use the tax system in a way to give them the best outcome that's possible through legal means

Not every company feels the need to set up their corporate structures to revolve around Luxembourg (or whatever the regional equivalent is in your part of the globe).

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#25

Post by tjpnz »

What value do advertisers get in losing a portion of their ad spend to those who are even less likely to engage? I would be curious to see what click through rates typically look like post this change.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#26

Post by JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B »

bad_user wrote: post #22
ssl232 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

I'm paying $8.30 / month for the Family option. That's like 2 or 3 coffees. In other countries this is more expensive, but it's adjusted for local buying power. Both you and the parent simply come up with reasons to avoid paying, getting the service for free. No matter how you look at it, what you're doing is immoral, because if everyone did it, YouTube would be permanently paywalled and placed under DRM. You're a pr…

> That's like 2 or 3 coffees

Expensive coffee at Starbucks which I would never buy. With $10 I can buy coffee for 3 months. It’s way too expensive for me.

I also consider every form of advertising to be brainwashing. Last but not least, I watch 1 YouTube video per month, so you would have to adapt your scenario for me to be interested in a subscription.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#27

Post by i8comments »

bad_user wrote: post #22
ssl232 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

I'm paying $8.30 / month for the Family option. That's like 2 or 3 coffees. In other countries this is more expensive, but it's adjusted for local buying power. Both you and the parent simply come up with reasons to avoid paying, getting the service for free. No matter how you look at it, what you're doing is immoral, because if everyone did it, YouTube would be permanently paywalled and placed under DRM. You're a pr…

A coffee costs 30 cents.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#28

Post by BiteCode_dev »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #17

Google is desperate to display ads on YouTube. YouTube videos, even of poor quality, often rank highly in Google search results. This means that Google can double its profits by displaying ads on YouTube, in addition to its search advertising revenue.

Which means eventually they will do something desperate like using WASM on the all pages or requiring DRM trusted by a TPM chip.

And adblockers won't work anymore.

We are loosing control over the client a little bit more everyday, and given the new generation know only locked down devices, they don't even notice.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#29

Post by gdevenyi »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #17

Google is desperate to display ads on YouTube. YouTube videos, even of poor quality, often rank highly in Google search results. This means that Google can double its profits by displaying ads on YouTube, in addition to its search advertising revenue.

Imagine how much better they would rank if one could search video content

I'm not so convinced Google cares to use YouTube to it's full potential.

Re: Adblock Plus and (a little) more

#30

Post by wintermutestwin »

ssl232 wrote: post #6
gray_-_wolf wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I just do not want to have a "business" relationship with google. I would not mind paying for youtube, if it was a separate company. But google does not need my money, and any money the get are used to actively making the world worse (WEI, SEO spam, Search getting worse, ...). On a separate note, there are reports of people getting their whole google account locked for payment issue…

I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube if its subscription cost was anywhere close to reasonable.

I wouldn't mind paying for youtube if I wasn't already paying for it because they are stealing my data.
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