There's an episode of one of the red letter media shows on YouTube which generally discuss films but sometimes TV, where rich Evans, one of the commentators, says something to the effect of, "if you had told 16 year old me that when I'm an adult I would be paid to watch new star wars content and that I would hate every minute of it I would have told you that you were a crazy person." I feel like most of the marvel, s…
'Daredevil' Hits Reset Button as Marvel Overhauls Its TV Business
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#12There's an episode of one of the red letter media shows on YouTube which generally discuss films but sometimes TV, where rich Evans, one of the commentators, says something to the effect of, "if you had told 16 year old me that when I'm an adult I would be paid to watch new star wars content and that I would hate every minute of it I would have told you that you were a crazy person." I feel like most of the marvel, s…
It’s the inevitable consequence of design by committee. By layering on requirements unrelated to “fun”, eventually fun becomes incompatible with all the different needs and wants. “Must cater to lucrative Chinese market.” “Must have at least one of each race represented — even if they’re a single family from one village.” Etc… eventually the singular vision is just one of many items on a long checklist. The only good…
Re: 'Daredevil' Hits Reset Button as Marvel Overhauls Its TV Business
#13There's an episode of one of the red letter media shows on YouTube which generally discuss films but sometimes TV, where rich Evans, one of the commentators, says something to the effect of, "if you had told 16 year old me that when I'm an adult I would be paid to watch new star wars content and that I would hate every minute of it I would have told you that you were a crazy person." I feel like most of the marvel, s…
It’s the inevitable consequence of design by committee. By layering on requirements unrelated to “fun”, eventually fun becomes incompatible with all the different needs and wants. “Must cater to lucrative Chinese market.” “Must have at least one of each race represented — even if they’re a single family from one village.” Etc… eventually the singular vision is just one of many items on a long checklist. The only good…
Re: 'Daredevil' Hits Reset Button as Marvel Overhauls Its TV Business
#14There's an episode of one of the red letter media shows on YouTube which generally discuss films but sometimes TV, where rich Evans, one of the commentators, says something to the effect of, "if you had told 16 year old me that when I'm an adult I would be paid to watch new star wars content and that I would hate every minute of it I would have told you that you were a crazy person." I feel like most of the marvel, s…
Because art isn't a product: it's a process, like science. Art is a form of human expression, where someone makes something they have in their head and want to see brought it life. If you design movies, or other things, through a committee that's checking boxes on a template intended to meet the requirements for another entertainment product, it's not really art anymore. It's a cynical product. We've seen a shift fro…
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because art isn't a product: it's a process, like science. Art is a form of human expression, where someone makes something they have in their head and want to see brought it life. If you design movies, or other things, through a committee that's checking boxes on a template intended to meet the requirements for another entertainment product, it's not really art anymore. It's a cynical product. We've seen a shift fro…
That’s just survivorship biases of artists thinking there has been a shift in Hollywood. Hollywood has always been a commercial enterprise studded with artistic egos, some deserved some not. CGI had just made mainstream action movies balloon is price, so they have all become financial endeavors.
And that's the truth. Go to your local art house cinema and watch whatever they are playing. There are people trying to create something that's their vision. But none of them work in Hollywood.
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#16There's an episode of one of the red letter media shows on YouTube which generally discuss films but sometimes TV, where rich Evans, one of the commentators, says something to the effect of, "if you had told 16 year old me that when I'm an adult I would be paid to watch new star wars content and that I would hate every minute of it I would have told you that you were a crazy person." I feel like most of the marvel, s…
I've become the "grump" at my workplace for disliking Marvel movies. The entire reason is they're formulaic, predictable, cheesy, etc. The push-back on my grumpiness is usually along the lines of "No they're not, they're awesome!" -- for which I can't really debate: if the person really likes them then it's just a matter of opinion. But often another opinion is to dismiss my critique as a "Who cares? If they [fans] e…
And there's nothing wrong with that. Many people enjoy that. But it's not art (as defined as something that challenges the audience) and it doesn't claim to be.
Nothing about a modern franchise challenges me in any way. There's nothing socially conscious, critically new, or ideologically challenging in any marvel or star wars whatever these days.
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#17There's an episode of one of the red letter media shows on YouTube which generally discuss films but sometimes TV, where rich Evans, one of the commentators, says something to the effect of, "if you had told 16 year old me that when I'm an adult I would be paid to watch new star wars content and that I would hate every minute of it I would have told you that you were a crazy person." I feel like most of the marvel, s…
Also, there's the fact that there are so many grand stories to tell in a fictional universe. If "epic" events are happening in it all the time, then they're actually humdrum, and the stakes are pretty low, so the audience has no reason to care. At the extreme, you enter soap opera or monthly comic book territory, where the writers have to come up with new storylines for decades on end, and the result is that nonsense…
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Also, there's the fact that there are so many grand stories to tell in a fictional universe. If "epic" events are happening in it all the time, then they're actually humdrum, and the stakes are pretty low, so the audience has no reason to care. At the extreme, you enter soap opera or monthly comic book territory, where the writers have to come up with new storylines for decades on end, and the result is that nonsense…
What if han solo, get this, still owed people money and was running around trying to avoid them and pulling little scams or whatever. But now he's like 65. That doesn't sound awesome to you?
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I've become the "grump" at my workplace for disliking Marvel movies. The entire reason is they're formulaic, predictable, cheesy, etc. The push-back on my grumpiness is usually along the lines of "No they're not, they're awesome!" -- for which I can't really debate: if the person really likes them then it's just a matter of opinion. But often another opinion is to dismiss my critique as a "Who cares? If they [fans] e…
I am totally ok if others like these things. But it's more like sports than it is like art. If you like sports that's fine, it takes an amazing amount of talent and experience and money to put together a professional team whether you are a player, coach, or manager. But the end result will always be some dudes on a field chasing a ball. And there's nothing wrong with that. Many people enjoy that. But it's not art (as…
That’s a pretty restrictive definition of art. While I appreciate that you’ve defined your terms, I think this definition is nonstandard.
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It’s the inevitable consequence of design by committee. By layering on requirements unrelated to “fun”, eventually fun becomes incompatible with all the different needs and wants. “Must cater to lucrative Chinese market.” “Must have at least one of each race represented — even if they’re a single family from one village.” Etc… eventually the singular vision is just one of many items on a long checklist. The only good…
Ridley Scott made g.i.jane and the Gucci movie. He's not always auteristic. Haha.
That doesn’t detract from his other successes!