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Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by outside1234 »

username135 wrote: post #6
AYBABTME wrote: post #5

California is very expensive for what you get, and grew to become quite unpleasant to live in. High crime rate and a bunch of woke DAs and activists makes family life in the Bay area uncomfortable. And then you're supposed to pay a premium for it all? Expensive daycare, indoctrinating schools, crappy government and private services, high taxes, NIMBYs, and the constant moral judgment of kidless activists who know wha…

Youre conflating living in SF with living in every other part of CA. I can assure you that not all of CA is like SF

Even more, SF is just a very small part of the Bay Area in general, which with the remote-first movement has also expanded to the north (Santa Rosa) and south (Santa Cruz).

There are many many places that are nice to live in California - and I almost don’t want to tell anyone about my town (Aptos) because I don’t want it overrun. :)

Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by rambojohnson »

AYBABTME wrote: post #5

California is very expensive for what you get, and grew to become quite unpleasant to live in. High crime rate and a bunch of woke DAs and activists makes family life in the Bay area uncomfortable. And then you're supposed to pay a premium for it all? Expensive daycare, indoctrinating schools, crappy government and private services, high taxes, NIMBYs, and the constant moral judgment of kidless activists who know wha…

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Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by [deleted] »

AYBABTME wrote: post #5

California is very expensive for what you get, and grew to become quite unpleasant to live in. High crime rate and a bunch of woke DAs and activists makes family life in the Bay area uncomfortable. And then you're supposed to pay a premium for it all? Expensive daycare, indoctrinating schools, crappy government and private services, high taxes, NIMBYs, and the constant moral judgment of kidless activists who know wha…

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Post by DeIlliad »

AYBABTME wrote: post #5

California is very expensive for what you get, and grew to become quite unpleasant to live in. High crime rate and a bunch of woke DAs and activists makes family life in the Bay area uncomfortable. And then you're supposed to pay a premium for it all? Expensive daycare, indoctrinating schools, crappy government and private services, high taxes, NIMBYs, and the constant moral judgment of kidless activists who know wha…

> Expensive daycare, indoctrinating schools, crappy government and private services, high taxes, NIMBYs, and the constant moral judgment of kidless activists who know what's best.

All of this applies to Arizona, Texas, and Florida. Arizona in particular has had the highest increase in housing cost since the pandemic started of out of any state.

Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by liamtk43 »

Regardless of the numbers referenced in the article, the bottom line is people are continuously leaving CA and NY for other states. Florida's real estate is by no means less expensive than CA or NY. It seems rather obvious the continued outflow from CA and NY is CA's and NY's suffocating regulatory and tax environment.

Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by [deleted] »

AYBABTME wrote: post #9
username135 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youre conflating living in SF with living in every other part of CA. I can assure you that not all of CA is like SF

Urban California mostly is as such. Otherwise do tell me where? Also I'm talking about my perspective living in the Bay in general. LA is less bad.

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Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by shipscode »

Makes sense since Texas is akin to California with regards to restrictions where you can carry a firearm. Namely gun free zone signs carrying the force of a felony preventing carry pretty much anywhere slightly urbanized. In for a penny, in for a pound as they say. FL and AZ are far less punitive in this regard.

Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by AYBABTME »

rambojohnson wrote: post #12
AYBABTME wrote: post #5

California is very expensive for what you get, and grew to become quite unpleasant to live in. High crime rate and a bunch of woke DAs and activists makes family life in the Bay area uncomfortable. And then you're supposed to pay a premium for it all? Expensive daycare, indoctrinating schools, crappy government and private services, high taxes, NIMBYs, and the constant moral judgment of kidless activists who know wha…

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I'm not. I just saw first hand how you call the cops and no one comes, can't be bothered. Don't leave anything in your car, don't ride your bike or get mugged. Drugged out zombies. I'm good. We were there in and out over a 5y span and I've had enough. How anyone convinces themselves that this is normal.. has Stockholm syndrome.

Since we arrived as foreigners, the locals all have been telling a well rehearsed line of "that's normal for any major urban area". These folks don't know what normal cities are supposed to be like. Clearly they think this as a coping mechanism or because they don't know what they're talking about.

Great things and ideas come from California, but this stuff is the tax paid for that greatness. The social experimental tendencies don't come for free or without consequences.

Re: Fewer Californians are moving to Texas, but more are going to FL and AZ

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Post by mrtksn »

As an outsider, for me the interesting part is if those who move out will be able to replicate SV.

People like to claim that Europe missed on tech because of regulations but there’s no EU regulations in TX or FL or AZ or anywhere outside of Europe and yet no successful replications so far. Many places are actively trying to replicate it, Silicon Valley of this Silicon Valley of that and no one ever came close.

It would be very interesting if AZ, for example, becomes the next SV so we can study it.

On the other hand, China and India seem to have their moments in hardware or niches or Scandinavian countries in EU are seeing some success too.

Anyway, it’s curious to see the effect of people moving around.

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