Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
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Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#2Norway is more of a city than a country, and a rather wealthy one that is difficult to draw conclusions from when it comes to consumer spending patterns. I'd brush this off as not that interesting.
However, if we're looking for oil death spirals in Norway, I recommend: https://crudeoilpeak.info/global-peak/norway-peak-oil
Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#3Norway is more of a city than a country, and a rather wealthy one that is difficult to draw conclusions from when it comes to consumer spending patterns. I'd brush this off as not that interesting. However, if we're looking for oil death spirals in Norway, I recommend: https://crudeoilpeak.info/global-peak/norway-peak-oil
It's a country of five million spread over a significant amount of land area?
My metropolitan area is like 6 million people, but only 500K lives within the city of Atlanta.
Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#4> electricity comes from the wall socket
Would that it were so!
Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#5Norway is more of a city than a country, and a rather wealthy one that is difficult to draw conclusions from when it comes to consumer spending patterns. I'd brush this off as not that interesting. However, if we're looking for oil death spirals in Norway, I recommend: https://crudeoilpeak.info/global-peak/norway-peak-oil
Somewhat larger and with more fjords than your average city
Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#6Well, in the larger metropolitan regions (Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim), where probably 2/3 of Norwegians live, you see a majority of electrics or at least hybrids.
When you get further North, that diminishes. From Lofoten to Tromsø, you see more and more petrol or diesel. And heavier vehicles.
The automotive culture there starkly reminded me of Iceland.
Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#7Norway is more of a city than a country, and a rather wealthy one that is difficult to draw conclusions from when it comes to consumer spending patterns. I'd brush this off as not that interesting. However, if we're looking for oil death spirals in Norway, I recommend: https://crudeoilpeak.info/global-peak/norway-peak-oil
You made me look up the area of Norway, and that’s a fairly ludicrous assertion.
Whatever reason you want to use to brush it off - that’s a daft one.
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#8Oil is still being used for plastic products. It will still be mined and drilled or fracked until all uses of oil diminish.
Re: Cratering motor fuel sales in Norway show the death spiral that can end oil
#9Well, in the larger metropolitan regions (Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim), where probably 2/3 of Norwegians live, you see a majority of electrics or at least hybrids. When you get further North, that diminishes. From Lofoten to Tromsø, you see more and more petrol or diesel. And heavier vehicles. The automotive culture there starkly reminded me of Iceland.
It's not so much the automotive culture, but backbreaking taxes on ICE vehicles, and basically no alternatives if you live in rural areas and have to drive long distances.
Maybe someone from norway can calculate/check how much a mid-range petrol/diesel car (eg. VW golf, renault megane,...) costs there after all the taxes, and compare to an electric one, but it's a LOT more than in eg. germany.
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#10A couple of comments on the article point out that if gas stations start closing due to reduced demand, it will accelerate the effect by making it more cumbersome to own a gas car. Recently, some of the industrial area near my apartment in NYC was rezoned for housing, and nearly all of the local gas stations were torn down (not because of low demand but because a 15 story building would be more profitable). The result is that even though I own a gas car, I now know of more–and more convenient–places in the area where I could charge an electric car than I do gas stations. Interesting shift!