Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet? • Hacker News Board

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by ticks » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:20 AM UTC

I used to have loads of problems with Firefox, it was so slow... took several minutes to close, it would freeze regularly etc. I got so sick of having to clear the cache every few weeks.

Then one day I noticed their hidden profile manager, created a new profile and used it instead. A few months on and everything is still working like it should. No need to clear caches, it quits within seconds, no crashes and so on.

It's worth a try if you get something similar. Obviously something was screwed up with my profiles, it took a really long time to delete the old profile.

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by fauigerzigerk » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:22 AM UTC

I'm glad they are working on that. Right now I'm not using Firefox because after a day or so typing into a text box starts to stall. I'm not sure it has to do with memory usage, but it has been that way for years on my Mac. Not on Windows or Linux interestingly.

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by exDM69 » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:22 AM UTC

enneff wrote: post #3

A nice manifestation of the idea "What we can measure we can fix." See also: http://arewefastyet.com/

Our engineering team's motto is "if you measure it, it will improve".

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by lambada » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:34 AM UTC

Nowhere on the page does it say what TP5 stands for. Google has also been unhelpful? Can someone explain?

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by guelo » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:38 AM UTC

lambada wrote: post #14

Nowhere on the page does it say what TP5 stands for. Google has also been unhelpful? Can someone explain?

It's in the FAQ https://areweslimyet.com/faq.htm#how-is-this-data-generated

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by lambada » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:44 AM UTC

guelo wrote: post #15

lambada wrote: post #14

Nowhere on the page does it say what TP5 stands for. Google has also been unhelpful? Can someone explain?

It's in the FAQ https://areweslimyet.com/faq.htm#how-is-this-data-generated

Actually, even that just used the Acronym without explanation. I missed the link in the 'answer though'. So 'after TP5' means after loading a manually curated list based on the top 500 web pages? Huh, in that case I'm impressed with how Firefox has improved.

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by azernik » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:58 AM UTC

wanderr wrote: post #7

I'm glad they are doing this because they need to do something about memory usage, but there are some problems with this approach. -websites change over time. If a site gets redesigned, it'll throw off test results unless they're rerunning the tests on old builds too -this still doesn't capture how users actually use browsers so could miss some serious leaks. What about clicking around on the same site, opening links…

WRT extensions: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720856#c14

There's movement.

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by Tichy » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 8:59 AM UTC

Is it the same old fallacy that consumed memory is somehow bad? What if they use it for efficient caching?

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by Teapot » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 9:07 AM UTC

"Do i look fat?" It's a trap! If we say 'No' then the bloat continues. And if we say 'Yes you're fat' she runs away crying. And the bloat still continues.

Honestly, Yes. You're still fat. But some progress has been made. Keep going. Stop when you hear the first complaint about too skinny.

Re: Mozilla: Are We Slim Yet?

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Post by hackermom » Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 9:08 AM UTC

FooBarWidget wrote: post #6

[deleted] wrote: post #5

[deleted]

What? People are complaining all the time that programmers become lazier and lazier and make programs more and more bloated as time goes on. Writing efficient programs requires complex tricks. I can't believe someone's complaining about that now.

"Writing efficient programs requires complex tricks."

Says who?