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Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by names_are_hard »

gampleman wrote: post #145
Viliam1234 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. How do you distinguish between "having a different God" and "having different beliefs about the same God"?

Depends if you believe it's the same god or not... But if we both claim to know a guy called John Brown, but I say he's kind, generous, hard working but a little dim and you say John Brown is hedonistic, self-entered and brilliant, are we talking about the same person? Normally if our descriptions are similar enough that we can chalk it up to perspective, we might think it is. But if our descriptions of the person be…

I agree. And on top of that, neither of us have actually met John Brown face to face. Our _entire_ knowledge of him is based on indirect interactions. We've seen things he's (ostensibly) done, artifacts of his work, we've deduced a set of characteristics about his nature based on his behavior. In a sense, John Brown is nothing more than the label we give to the entity having characteristics A,B,C,D.

So like you say, if the overlap between your A,B,C,D and my A,B,C,D is sufficiently small we should probably acknowledge that it's not the same entity. See also: Ship of Theseus.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by vuln »

parthdesai wrote: post #167
zen_1 wrote: post #154

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Hey if you're Arab or Palestenian you're likely to get scrutiny no matter what

Not an arab, but as a brown person, it's a bit funny when TSA always "randomly" selects you for screening

As a white man with a lengthy beard I get stopped every time.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by digggit »

smusamashah wrote: post #161
8organicbits wrote: post #136

Any ideas what software they are using? Alhamdulillah is a very widely used expression. My guess is that they used an LLM, which translated it correctly but then decided to hallucinate more text. If so, that says that lot about their training text...

I don't think it translated Alhamdulillah wrong. It can be seen there translated as "Praise be God". The "Palestenian :flag:" seems to be translated to Palestanian terrorists. Could be the job of LLM, which just saw "Palestenian :flag:" and found "Palestenian terrorism" to be most probable continuation.

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by jahnu »

amatecha wrote: post #165
nonethewiser wrote: post #150

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Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles

I mean.. I saw the border agent searching my name on Google years ago (let's say ~2005-2008-ish) when I was entering the US from Canada (one of the Vancouver-area border crossings). They looked at my website or myspace page IIRC, I forget what. I could see their screen which was tilted slightly at an angle such that it was visible from my position outside the booth/window. BTW, this wasn't for any reason or anything,…

Reminds me of this story

https://www.wired.com/2007/04/canadian-psycho/

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by zen_1 »

parthdesai wrote: post #167
zen_1 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey if you're Arab or Palestenian you're likely to get scrutiny no matter what

Not an arab, but as a brown person, it's a bit funny when TSA always "randomly" selects you for screening

Sometimes you get to skip the line though, its not all downside

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Post by kiwikan »

they're also shadow banning a lot of people who are posting pro-Palestine content, people are sharing short tutorials where they're trying to teach people how to work around the "algorithm". they also deleted an Al-Jazeera presenter’s profile after he criticized Israel[1]

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37464482

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by botanical »

shashashasha___ wrote: post #135

I assume translating in IG is based on ML based on users data and feedback. so its statistics and not bulletproof. in general its considered a very complex problem as languages are very different from each other. On the other hand, I don't see bbc apologizing for calling hamas terrorists "militants". wonder how many civilians they need to behead and/or burn alive before that happens.

Same can be said of the IDF, them being complicit for Apartheid Israel's war crimes where a majority of innocent civilians have been needlessly killed. They're two of sides of the same coin.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by amatecha »

jahnu wrote: post #175
amatecha wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean.. I saw the border agent searching my name on Google years ago (let's say ~2005-2008-ish) when I was entering the US from Canada (one of the Vancouver-area border crossings). They looked at my website or myspace page IIRC, I forget what. I could see their screen which was tilted slightly at an angle such that it was visible from my position outside the booth/window. BTW, this wasn't for any reason or anything,…

Reminds me of this story https://www.wired.com/2007/04/canadian-psycho/

Wow, that's messed up. Right around the same timeframe, too.
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