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Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by smusamashah »

8organicbits wrote: post #136

Any ideas what software they are using? Alhamdulillah is a very widely used expression. My guess is that they used an LLM, which translated it correctly but then decided to hallucinate more text. If so, that says that lot about their training text...

I don't think it translated Alhamdulillah wrong. It can be seen there translated as "Praise be God". The "Palestenian :flag:" seems to be translated to Palestanian terrorists. Could be the job of LLM, which just saw "Palestenian :flag:" and found "Palestenian terrorism" to be most probable continuation.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

gampleman wrote: post #145
Viliam1234 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. How do you distinguish between "having a different God" and "having different beliefs about the same God"?

Depends if you believe it's the same god or not... But if we both claim to know a guy called John Brown, but I say he's kind, generous, hard working but a little dim and you say John Brown is hedonistic, self-entered and brilliant, are we talking about the same person? Normally if our descriptions are similar enough that we can chalk it up to perspective, we might think it is. But if our descriptions of the person be…

Here's a plot twist, though. Old Testament is canon to Jews, Christians and Muslims alike. The God in there is the same one. It's the treatment of New Testament that differs - Judaism ignores it, Christianity considers it canon and Jesus is God, while Islam considers it a kind of "beta canon", acknowledging Jesus, but only as a prophet.

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Post by nisegami »

3-cheese-sundae wrote: post #158
nisegami wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US customs had me give them the credentials for my facebook profile back in 2017, so it's not that uncommon. Edit: I had mentioned twitter as well originally, but I think what happened was I told them my twitter password was in my password manager and offered to get it off my phone (in their possession at the time) but the guy said it wasn't necessary. For context, I was a 22 year old student travelling from my home…

How did they know you used those platforms?

They asked and I answered. They had already taken my phone and laptop to search, so I didn't see any need to lie.

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Post by amatecha »

nonethewiser wrote: post #150
morkalork wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles with an LLM translation like that.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles

I mean.. I saw the border agent searching my name on Google years ago (let's say ~2005-2008-ish) when I was entering the US from Canada (one of the Vancouver-area border crossings). They looked at my website or myspace page IIRC, I forget what. I could see their screen which was tilted slightly at an angle such that it was visible from my position outside the booth/window. BTW, this wasn't for any reason or anything, it was a totally normal crossing and they just started looking up my name on the web as if it were standard procedure.

I'm sure that's all automated now, they probably get a nice listing of data they have on you the moment your passport is scanned at the border. Who knows? Maybe now they'll get a 3d avatar of your face because it's been scanned at the airport of any allied country, because you had the audacity to travel out-of-country and are now subjected to unprecedented data collection.

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Post by fkislam »

zen_1 wrote: post #154
morkalork wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles with an LLM translation like that.

Hey if you're Arab or Palestenian you're likely to get scrutiny no matter what

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by parthdesai »

zen_1 wrote: post #154
morkalork wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles with an LLM translation like that.

Hey if you're Arab or Palestenian you're likely to get scrutiny no matter what

Not an arab, but as a brown person, it's a bit funny when TSA always "randomly" selects you for screening

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by bo-tao »

nonethewiser wrote: post #150
morkalork wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles with an LLM translation like that.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles

US Customs screen your social profiles and for some people they check everything on your phone

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Post by radres »

nonethewiser wrote: post #150
morkalork wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles with an LLM translation like that.

Imagine going through customs in a foreign country and they screen your social profiles

you have a strong passport and clueless what other people go through.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Post by bluish29 »

gampleman wrote: post #145
Viliam1234 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. How do you distinguish between "having a different God" and "having different beliefs about the same God"?

Depends if you believe it's the same god or not... But if we both claim to know a guy called John Brown, but I say he's kind, generous, hard working but a little dim and you say John Brown is hedonistic, self-entered and brilliant, are we talking about the same person? Normally if our descriptions are similar enough that we can chalk it up to perspective, we might think it is. But if our descriptions of the person be…

>But if we both claim to know a guy called John Brown, but I say he's kind, generous, hard working but a little dim and you say John Brown is hedonistic, self-entered and brilliant, are we talking about the same person?

I don't think this example really is catching the core of discussion about Allah (The God). Because we both know a president who bombed two cities and by nuclear bombs. Some people will call him a war hero because he ended WWII, Some people will say he is a war criminal. You will always find something like this when you are talking about a human. Maybe it is also not just different opinions, but different access to information can give us different view on the same person. But we agree that we are talking about the same person, I just find this person to be different from what you think he/she is.

Things are totally different from religious point of view. The discussion between Christians and Muslims is mainly about the nature of The God, not that there is "The God". This also might extend to Judaism, but I don't know much about it.

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