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> who then shoot the police dog What would you expect them to do? Play fetch with it?
I think, despite the humor fail, you have an accidental point, because the police dogs DO fetch unarmed hidden offenders.
Liable to go badly for the dogs when the bad guys are armed.
As a human, this looks terrifying. Imagine being attacked by robot dogs. Now imagine being attacked by robot dogs that have rocket launchers! Straight out of a Fast & Furious movie. You can(!) make this shit up. But as a person in tech, where all my values are directed towards "making a better world"... this also goes against every ideal we have. Unless you count living in a world where we have the ability to extermi…
What you're saying is lets send our soldiers (human beings) into a dangerous situation where they can get killed.
If warfare still exists I would rather have robots fighting robots and remove humans from the equation altogether. Second best is to minimize casualties from "our side". Yes, that's terrible but it's also more humane.
In war soldiers get killed, this typically escalates violence which increases to both sides. It makes the war more bloody and more personal. Drones are terrible but they significantly reduced US casualties in the war against ISIS. There's collateral damage, but that happens for human attacks as well.
In fact, with robots we don't need lethal weapons at all. A recent US drone strike killed a terrorist with flying knives to avoid hurting his family. If a soldier was physically there they would have to start shooting and blowing up the region so no one will shoot back at them. A robot/drone wouldn't have that problem.
Don't get me wrong, I'm scared of many aspects related to robots in these scenarios. Specifically the ability of a minority elite controlling the masses. But I also think that robots can help remove a lot of the value/incentive of wars. If countries only sacrifice robots during wars, why fight at all? Use economics policies instead. Maybe we can call it Pax Robota...
As a human, this looks terrifying. Imagine being attacked by robot dogs. Now imagine being attacked by robot dogs that have rocket launchers! Straight out of a Fast & Furious movie. You can(!) make this shit up. But as a person in tech, where all my values are directed towards "making a better world"... this also goes against every ideal we have. Unless you count living in a world where we have the ability to extermi…
> this also goes against every ideal we have Counterexample: https://www.wjcl.com/article/officers-kill-man-who-killed-a-... And there are countless other actual police dogs hurt or killed by violent offenders. Sending actual dogs in to snoop out bad guys, who then shoot the police dog, sadly happens. Send in a robot with a rocket launcher, the bad guy is like oh fuck this bad guy nonsense, and the robot dog just has…
If you kill a cop's dog, you will face the death penalty.
None of the "on a dog" designs make sense to me. Robot tanks have always been able to maneuver over tougher obstacles and much harder to knock over and are significantly faster. Some tanks with the tall tracks can right-side themselves. Stability is important with aimed weapons. A tank can have a turret with multiple projectile devices and could fire any direction. A dog would fall over firing sideways. So why do we…
The special forces ideal is small packages with large firepower. I can not imagine anything that better meets that definition than quadracopter scouts and robot dogs with missile launchers.
Falling over after the shot is irrelevant. Basic marksmanship training teaches recruits to pull the trigger until the shot going off surprises them. We only care about what happens next if we want a quick follow up shot, which is not possible with single shot rocket launchers.
As a human, this looks terrifying. Imagine being attacked by robot dogs. Now imagine being attacked by robot dogs that have rocket launchers! Straight out of a Fast & Furious movie. You can(!) make this shit up. But as a person in tech, where all my values are directed towards "making a better world"... this also goes against every ideal we have. Unless you count living in a world where we have the ability to extermi…
I used to think that but I changed my mind after being in the army myself. What you're saying is lets send our soldiers (human beings) into a dangerous situation where they can get killed. If warfare still exists I would rather have robots fighting robots and remove humans from the equation altogether. Second best is to minimize casualties from "our side". Yes, that's terrible but it's also more humane. In war soldie…
* The "no human in the loop" combat robot is deployed into an area with non-combatants, but wrongly classifies them as enemy combatants.
* The "no human in the loop" combat robot gets damaged while in active combat, forgetting the concept of "friendlies"
* The "no human in the loop" combat robot gets hacked. All sorts of ways this could go badly. If they're hacked en-masse that's potentially amplified dramatically.
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I used to think that but I changed my mind after being in the army myself. What you're saying is lets send our soldiers (human beings) into a dangerous situation where they can get killed. If warfare still exists I would rather have robots fighting robots and remove humans from the equation altogether. Second best is to minimize casualties from "our side". Yes, that's terrible but it's also more humane. In war soldie…
There are some obvious problem scenarios though, which are unfortunately likely to happen: * The "no human in the loop" combat robot is deployed into an area with non-combatants, but wrongly classifies them as enemy combatants. * The "no human in the loop" combat robot gets damaged while in active combat, forgetting the concept of "friendlies" * The "no human in the loop" combat robot gets hacked. All sorts of ways t…
As a human, this looks terrifying. Imagine being attacked by robot dogs. Now imagine being attacked by robot dogs that have rocket launchers! Straight out of a Fast & Furious movie. You can(!) make this shit up. But as a person in tech, where all my values are directed towards "making a better world"... this also goes against every ideal we have. Unless you count living in a world where we have the ability to extermi…