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Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by dotnet00 »

pierat wrote: post #440
dotnet00 wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of middle school while I was temporarily in a country with heavily censored internet, where, I couldn't even search for info about sexual reproduction in plants for an assignment without a VPN because they filtered on "sex". So while I couldn't find info on actually innocent topics, it had been trivial to play around with search terms to find porn that the filter couldn't catch.

> temporarily in a country with heavily censored internet So, the USA huh? For "children" (read: under 18), schools are some of the most despotic, censorious, and anti-democratic institution we have, and we send young humans from 6-18 through this meatgrinder. During health class, our teacher was unable to see anything about "breast cancer", even though various cancers were in the discussion topic. Didn't matter. "Br…

It was Iran, at home. The school was not that great so the only material accessible there would have at most been an old encyclopedia in the library.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by ayhanfuat »

bertil wrote: post #460
ayhanfuat wrote: post #410

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Do you have any insights into how it might be resolved given that you think a blatant false positive like this is likely? Or is it a lost cause?

It’s a story in three steps: 1. The problem is that there is a staggering amount of “things” that can be either sold on Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp or advertised for (it’s the same service): every film on Netflix, every item for sale on Etsy, eBay, Amazon, every game on a random retro console platform, etc. There are hundreds of billions of things. Some are duplicates (humanity barely makes that many things), but not…

Thanks for the detailed answer. I guess these are unavoidable without investing a lot more money on it if you are aiming for basically reducing false negatives to zero at that scale. One thing that surprised me is that Yann LeCun frequently mentions transformers have been in prod for all parts of moderation on Meta for a while already but maybe they come into play at more critical problems or at later stages.

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Post by livueta »

miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

Dark Souls 2 turned "Knight" into "K***ht". In a medieval fantasy setting.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by dhfbshfbu4u3 »

eh_why_not wrote: post #461
dhfbshfbu4u3 wrote: post #289

Not surprised by this at all. “Animal trading” is such a touchy category within Meta. Once you get flagged for this, you can basically kiss your account goodbye. It is impossible to get support, even in cases like this where it clearly has nothing to do with animals. Meta simply will not touch it. There are other categories like this too. Ultimately it is easier/safer for Meta to just wholesale ban any use of terms e…

> This will only continue as Meta continues its exit from detailed ad targeting. Google is doing the same thing too. Meta and Google are exiting "detailed ad targeting"? How so?

Both companies are pulling way back on targeting categories and have been for a couple years now. Most of it rolls up under privacy these days but when they started they were pretty coy about it. Eventually, they'll exit entirely.

You can see this in the ad products they are both pushing: Advantage+ on the Meta side and PerformanceMax at Google. Marketers ability to target with these ad products is severely curtailed. They are opaque black boxes at best.

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Post by dhfbshfbu4u3 »

btbuildem wrote: post #470
dhfbshfbu4u3 wrote: post #289

Not surprised by this at all. “Animal trading” is such a touchy category within Meta. Once you get flagged for this, you can basically kiss your account goodbye. It is impossible to get support, even in cases like this where it clearly has nothing to do with animals. Meta simply will not touch it. There are other categories like this too. Ultimately it is easier/safer for Meta to just wholesale ban any use of terms e…

It sounds like an interesting opportunity for a DDOS / social engineering type attack

Oh indeed. Some activists do this already and it is very painful for advertisers who get hit this way.

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Post by punnerud »

I guess this message was through Message within your account?

If you check the sender they just created the account, and the link looks like Facebook.

I get this within a couple of hours after my first advertisement on a new page. This is probably phishing, and I guess it was not Facebook contacting you in the first place.

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Post by plorg »

kazinator wrote: post #436
plorg wrote: post #425

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In the early 2000s I couldn't download Winamp 3 at school because the URL contained the string 'mp3'. I'm sure the school did not care about the distinction.

If you couldn't download MP3s, what good would Winamp be? :P

The earnest answer is I wanted to play my ripped mp3s and recordings off the radio on my computer at home. We had slow dial-up and 4 kids fighting over it, but I had my own non-internet-connected computer and an early flash drive, and the school had fast internet.

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Post by mitchdoogle »

rozap wrote: post #449
Xixi wrote: post #44

AIs and other opaque processes making decisions are incredibly frustrating. I'm still wondering why my tea-of-the-month business [0] got turned down by Stripe when I incorporated an LLC (technically a Godo Kaisha, as it is incorporated in Japan). It came as a surprise as it was perfectly fine by them for as long as it was a sole proprietorship. Which is why I strongly suspect the rejection came from an AI. At the tim…

What's wrong with your existing payment processors? This type of existential thing seems to come up over and over again with stripe, I'm surprised people still want to use them.

People want to use it because its very easy to sign up and very easy to use. Even compared to Paypal, its much easier in my experience. And the vast majority of users don't have any issues at all.

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Post by kazinator »

plorg wrote: post #477
kazinator wrote: post #436

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If you couldn't download MP3s, what good would Winamp be? :P

The earnest answer is I wanted to play my ripped mp3s and recordings off the radio on my computer at home. We had slow dial-up and 4 kids fighting over it, but I had my own non-internet-connected computer and an early flash drive, and the school had fast internet.

I wonder if spelling the MP3 part of the path name with URL encoded characters might not have defeated the check yet still resolved on the server end.

E.g. instead of /mp3/ you write /%6dp3/.

Filed under Idle Questions About Past Events Next To Impossible To Answer Today (IQ APENTITAT?)

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Post by exikyut »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #444
kgwgk wrote: post #402

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> The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. Clbuttic!

These heavy-handed restrictions on speech are positively medireview!

Confused Google

"medireview. Erroneous, computer-generated form of medieval."

Enlightened facepalm

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