Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

404media.co

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 191 posts

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#81

Post by greenie_beans »

zogrodea wrote: post #73
greenie_beans wrote: post #29

I asked ChatGPT what the Great March of Return was: > The Great March of Return was a series of Palestinian protests organized by various groups, including Hamas, to demand the right of Palestinian refugees and their descendants to return to their ancestral homes in what is now Israel. The protests took place along the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel and were intended to draw attention to the Palestinian ref…

How did it know the answer when the cutoff date is meant to January 2022? (I just found another instance at [0] so maybe "cutoff" doesn't mean exactly what it seems.) https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/11iv2uc/theres_no_...

the great march of return was in 2018 - 2019. the idf committed some brutal war crimes against the protestors. watch this video if you'd like to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s

i shared the answer to expose the bias of chatgpt. it interjected "including hamas" into the answer and said there were "fatalities on both sides".

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#82

Post by AlexandrB »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #78

There's literally no-one on this planet who will genuinely confuse the sentence "palestinian terrorists are fighting for their freedom" with anything other than a machine translation error.

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#83

Post by bilalq »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #78

There's literally no-one on this planet who will genuinely confuse the sentence "palestinian terrorists are fighting for their freedom" with anything other than a machine translation error.

If only that were true. I can't speak for the world, but I know there are large swaths of the American population and even many people I know personally and probably have as Facebook/Instagram connections that absolutely would take it at face value.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#84

Post by zogrodea »

dylan604 wrote: post #75
zogrodea wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a couple of things to say about this comment. 1. Instagram (and Facebook) are well known to suppress pro-Palestine voices (can pull up many examples but [0] should work because of that person being named by Time magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world, clearly having some influence though I don't know her), so this seems like something consistent with what the company is known to do. 2.…

>(It's known that machine learning on human language reproduces the humans' biases in the AI.) just like being raised by your parents to have similar political/religious biases. just like going to the same school will mean you have similar educational biases.

What's your point? With the sentence you quoted, I was expressing doubt that someone would be fired by Instagram for deliberately mistranslating that. (A different company wouldn't get the same assessment.)

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#85

Post by coding123 »

permo-w wrote: post #17
elil17 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a human translator translated "Praise god" as "Palestinian terrorists are fighting for their freedom" I'm pretty sure they'd be fired immediately. In contrast, Instagram is not going to be taking down their machine translation tool.

not AI /= human

/= != !=

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#87

Post by AskSocialist »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #78

There's literally no-one on this planet who will genuinely confuse the sentence "palestinian terrorists are fighting for their freedom" with anything other than a machine translation error.

Clearly you are not from America...

People here believe that the covid vaccine inserted a microchip that was activated by 5G to control their minds. There are absolutely people here who believe saying "Praise God" in Arabic is a terrorist slang term. I see people demand others get off of planes because they are praying to Allah. Anti-Muslim sentiment in America is very high.

I guarantee you there are plenty of folks here who would say, "Well, Instagram wouldn't lie about the translation, sooo....".

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#88

Post by AskSocialist »

OfSanguineFire wrote: post #71
alephnerd wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is not some recently coined alternative, it has been one of Arabic’s stock expressions for centuries and centuries Yep! But a lot of people nowadays will use Alhamdulillah in scenarios where you could just as well use "Allah u Akbar" now. There definitely was a linguistic shift over the past few decades. I also don't hear people saying "Inshallah" as much anymore. > after they sneeze "Bless you"

This site[0] claims that the use of Alhamdulillah after sneezing goes back to, among others, a Hadith tradition that Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning. So, rather different from the Christian use of “bless you”, and I think that a lot of people outside Islam would still agree with the “oddly enough”. I’m surprised that you hear inshallah less nowadays. It would be interesting to get some hard data on that. In…

[flagged]

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

#90

Post by AskSocialist »

jncfhnb wrote: post #60
alephnerd wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's translating "alhamdulillah" to "Terrorist". "Alhamdulillah" is Arabic for "Praise be to god" and (edit: to my ear at least) is used by Muslims (edit: by Arabic speakers more often) nowadays as an alternative to Allah u Akbar, Takbir, or Narai-e-Takbir because (edit: I think) those 3 terms have increasingly been co-opted. This is the equivalent of translating "Praise Jesus" to "I love god and hate abortions"

Is that the whole passage? It probably doesn’t matter. I’m just curious because the exact claim I see is > The "see translation" feature for user bios was auto-translating phrases that included "Palestinian" and “alhamdulillah” into "Praise be to god, Palestinian terrorists are fighting for their freedom." Which reads oddly

[flagged]
Post reply on HN