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Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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This is the sort of thing that could cause people to lose friends or jobs. This is exactly the sort of thing we should be worried about with AI. I feel like machine translations like those on Instagram should come with a disclaimer (in bold, not fine print!).

Are we really at the point where we need a disclaimer saying "automatic translations may not be accurate"?

I think the average person doesn't understand at all what level of accuracy they can expect from AI tools. That is why you have professors relying on ChatGPT to tell them if a student cheated using ChatGPT.

HN readers already know not to trust it of course.

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Are we really at the point where we need a disclaimer saying "automatic translations may not be accurate"?

I think the average person doesn't understand at all what level of accuracy they can expect from AI tools. That is why you have professors relying on ChatGPT to tell them if a student cheated using ChatGPT. HN readers already know not to trust it of course.

I agree that the average person doesn't generally know how technology works. I think the solution is not to limit the use of technology but to restrict the exposure of the average person to technology until they can prove that they know how it works (some sort of internet license, if you will)

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more outrage bait from 404media.... It's bad sure, but this has been possible/happening with user-sourced translation 'correction' systems for years like in Google Translate. Anyone could have influenced the translation to include those phrases. And similar effects have been absorbed into automated engines

How is this "outrage bait"? It describes an event that happened quite accurately, and how the issue came to be is something worth discussing and reflecting on.

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this could easily have happened with non-AI translations

Notice that GP said "machine translation", not "AI". Let's think of it instead as a "nonlinear high-dimensional sequence translation model trained on some large and unknown corpus". Does that make it less problematic?

How is that not AI?

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more outrage bait from 404media.... It's bad sure, but this has been possible/happening with user-sourced translation 'correction' systems for years like in Google Translate. Anyone could have influenced the translation to include those phrases. And similar effects have been absorbed into automated engines

How is this "outrage bait"? It describes an event that happened quite accurately, and how the issue came to be is something worth discussing and reflecting on.

The title is outrage bait. It wasn't adding "terrorist" to all translation of Palestinian bios, only to those that included a very specific phrase, and also the translation didn't make it sound like the user himself was a terrorist, since it talked about terrorists in an impersonal way.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the average person doesn't understand at all what level of accuracy they can expect from AI tools. That is why you have professors relying on ChatGPT to tell them if a student cheated using ChatGPT. HN readers already know not to trust it of course.

I agree that the average person doesn't generally know how technology works. I think the solution is not to limit the use of technology but to restrict the exposure of the average person to technology until they can prove that they know how it works (some sort of internet license, if you will)

tbf, with AI, even technologists doesn’t generally know how it works.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notice that GP said "machine translation", not "AI". Let's think of it instead as a "nonlinear high-dimensional sequence translation model trained on some large and unknown corpus". Does that make it less problematic?

How is that not AI?

because it isn't smart?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this could easily have happened with non-AI translations

Notice that GP said "machine translation", not "AI". Let's think of it instead as a "nonlinear high-dimensional sequence translation model trained on some large and unknown corpus". Does that make it less problematic?

No? Why would it?

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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I asked ChatGPT what the Great March of Return was:

> The Great March of Return was a series of Palestinian protests organized by various groups, including Hamas, to demand the right of Palestinian refugees and their descendants to return to their ancestral homes in what is now Israel. The protests took place along the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel and were intended to draw attention to the Palestinian refugee issue and the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

> These protests often resulted in clashes with Israeli security forces, leading to casualties and fatalities on both sides. The situation was complex and highly charged, with different narratives and interpretations of events.

Re: Instagram apologizes for inserting 'terrorist' into Palestinian bio translations

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This is the sort of thing that could cause people to lose friends or jobs. This is exactly the sort of thing we should be worried about with AI. I feel like machine translations like those on Instagram should come with a disclaimer (in bold, not fine print!).

this could easily have happened with non-AI translations

Lots of things could have happened we're talking about this specific thing that did though.
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